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December 28th, 2017, 08:26 PM
#51
IMO every firearm owner has the responsibility to not only comply with the storage regs but to exceed the minimum requirements. The intent of the regs is to prevent accidental injuries or use of the weapon in a crime. I don't know about you, but I would feel pretty crappy if someone was killed as the result of my rifle not being stored properly and that I didn't take adequate steps to secure them. It's been pointed out in this forum how easily a vault or trigger lock can be defeated so at least use 2 methods to secure your guns.
As for protection from prosecution goes, forget about common sense. The police, politicians, and prosecutors all want to appear tough when it comes to guns, so they will consider anything to lay a charge. Even if you're innocent, they don't care about you or your rights. Expect the worst!
As for the OP's question, if you really want to use a glass wooden case, for goodness sakes, don't make it easy for someone to gain access to your guns. The best way is to make them inoperable e.g. remove the bolt or action. Don't rely on a trigger lock.
Last edited by Sam Menard; December 28th, 2017 at 08:38 PM.
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December 28th, 2017 08:26 PM
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December 28th, 2017, 08:41 PM
#52

Originally Posted by
trimmer21
Well,he should. The Oath of Office every Police Constable takes is quite specific "to enforce the law without fear,favor or malice aforethought......." When law enforcement enters the political process,there's enough clear evidence of conflict of interest and every LEO needs to realize that they can be held personally civilly liable for every tort committed by being over-zealous. It doesn't happen often enough and it most certainly should.
Every "travelling man" on the job thereby breaches his oath of office from day one and they definitely enter the political process.
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December 28th, 2017, 08:45 PM
#53

Originally Posted by
jaycee
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As I have mentioned before, charges have been laid by "overzealous cops " and as in Mike Hargreaves case, the charges have been dropped.
Makes you wonder if this cop had an axe to grind?
Now he will no doubt find himself in court facing malicious prosecution charges, he and anyone else involved.
I know Mike personally and there was a axe to grind as he was a defense expert witness in many trials and made some enemies as a result.I also know he was a marked man for other reasons.In this particular case probably the incompetence of the investigating officer played a big part also.
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December 28th, 2017, 08:54 PM
#54

Originally Posted by
Sam Menard
IMO every firearm owner has the responsibility to not only comply with the storage regs but to exceed the minimum requirements. The intent of the regs is to prevent accidental injuries or use of the weapon in a crime. I don't know about you, but I would feel pretty crappy if someone was killed as the result of my rifle not being stored properly and that I didn't take adequate steps to secure them. It's been pointed out in this forum how easily a vault or trigger lock can be defeated so at least use 2 methods to secure your guns.
As for protection from prosecution goes, forget about common sense. The police, politicians, and prosecutors all want to appear tough when it comes to guns, so they will consider anything to lay a charge. Even if you're innocent, they don't care about you or your rights. Expect the worst!
As for the OP's question, if you really want to use a glass wooden case, for goodness sakes, don't make it easy for someone to gain access to your guns. The best way is to make them inoperable e.g. remove the bolt or action. Don't rely on a trigger lock.
I am sure we all would feel bad if someone stole one of our guns and used it in a horrible crime..... but lets not blame the gun owner, lets put the blame where it truly belongs........................................... ..... and that is with the thief.
I used to keep my guns in a display case similar to what the OP asked about. This is going back about 25 years now. At the time I asked a few cops I knew to visit my home once to inspect the setup. They were impressed with the craftsmanship/wood and display. They gave me the thumbs up on it, unfortunately society has scared me or has me so worried that I now have them in a secure room in a safe out of view/sight. What a shame. I ended up turning my display case into a nice looking bookshelf.
Last edited by fratri; December 28th, 2017 at 08:56 PM.
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December 28th, 2017, 09:46 PM
#55
Completely agree

Originally Posted by
Sam Menard
IMO every firearm owner has the responsibility to not only comply with the storage regs but to exceed the minimum requirements. The intent of the regs is to prevent accidental injuries or use of the weapon in a crime. I don't know about you, but I would feel pretty crappy if someone was killed as the result of my rifle not being stored properly and that I didn't take adequate steps to secure them. It's been pointed out in this forum how easily a vault or trigger lock can be defeated so at least use 2 methods to secure your guns.
As for protection from prosecution goes, forget about common sense. The police, politicians, and prosecutors all want to appear tough when it comes to guns, so they will consider anything to lay a charge. Even if you're innocent, they don't care about you or your rights. Expect the worst!
As for the OP's question, if you really want to use a glass wooden case, for goodness sakes, don't make it easy for someone to gain access to your guns. The best way is to make them inoperable e.g. remove the bolt or action. Don't rely on a trigger lock.
"This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013) OFAH Member
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December 29th, 2017, 11:25 AM
#56

Originally Posted by
welsh
A single instance of someone being charged in 2003 does not prove that every time guns are stolen, the owner is charged, which was your original claim.
Let it go.
Hargreaves is frequently referenced in safe storage discussions. Glossed over is that his apartment was in a Toronto Housing Community subsidized building in a known gang area, Hargreaves didn't live there and he rented the unit specifically to store firearms. His case is hardly proof that every time guns are stolen the owner is charged. In the intervening 14 years there have been many gun thefts where owners were not charged providing they established having met the legal storage requirements.
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December 29th, 2017, 11:37 AM
#57
Completely agree...

Originally Posted by
Badenoch
Hargreaves is frequently referenced in safe storage discussions. Glossed over is that his apartment was in a Toronto Housing Community subsidized building in a known gang area, Hargreaves didn't live there and he rented the unit specifically to store firearms. His case is hardly proof that every time guns are stolen the owner is charged. In the intervening 14 years there have been many gun thefts where owners were not charged providing they established having met the legal storage requirements.