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March 9th, 2018, 11:53 AM
#141
Quite apart from Rick's point, you can't identify people from photos unless you have something to compare to. It's generally not going to help.
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March 9th, 2018 11:53 AM
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March 9th, 2018, 12:11 PM
#142

Originally Posted by
Bushmoose
Hopefully his legal team get it sorted out for him?
Some precedences have been thru the courts...the example in the article (previously linked), the courts reduce the ordinal sentence to 11 months and he killed the trespasser...
Soon, a physical confrontation ensued between the interloper, John Ward, and the homeowner, who extricated himself from the fight long enough to run off and grab his rifle. He returned, firing two shots into Mr. Ward, killing him on the spot.
Mr. Nally would be charged with murder and manslaughter. He’d beat the murder charge but would get six years for manslaughter. Eleven months later, however, he would win his freedom, after an appeal and a retrial – based on precisely the same facts set out in the original trial.
Thank God some judges understand the intent of the law and can adjust the charge/sentence to reflect common sense.
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March 9th, 2018, 01:17 PM
#143

Originally Posted by
welsh
Quite apart from Rick's point, you can't identify people from photos unless you have something to compare to. It's generally not going to help.
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A lot of criminals are identified by the police by posting good pics to social media. Happens all the time. The issue is getting quality photos.
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March 9th, 2018, 01:17 PM
#144

Originally Posted by
welsh
Quite apart from Rick's point, you can't identify people from photos unless you have something to compare to. It's generally not going to help.
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I'm not exactly sure what you mean? However, I do recall reading something about photo's not being permitted and used as evidence. Something to the effect of them not being proof enough due to chain of evidence? Or lack thereof?
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March 9th, 2018, 01:19 PM
#145

Originally Posted by
rick_iles
A lot of criminals are identified by the police by posting good pics to social media. Happens all the time. The issue is getting quality photos.
But a lot are not. I can tell you the cameras on my property have never identified anyone, even with clear faces.
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March 9th, 2018, 01:22 PM
#146

Originally Posted by
Bushmoose
I'm not exactly sure what you mean?
If you don't have a person who recognizes the photo or another, identified photo, you have no way of knowing who that person is.
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March 9th, 2018, 01:30 PM
#147

Originally Posted by
welsh
If you don't have a person who recognizes the photo or another, identified photo, you have no way of knowing who that person is.
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Granted, but if that person is recognized, and later found, can the image be used as evidence against them?
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March 9th, 2018, 01:38 PM
#148

Originally Posted by
MikePal
Some precedences have been thru the courts...the example in the article (previously linked), the courts reduce the ordinal sentence to 11 months and he killed the trespasser...
Thank God some judges understand the intent of the law and can adjust the charge/sentence to reflect common sense.
Except that it's not a precedent because it happened in IRELAND, and here in Canada our courts apply Canadian law.
I'm amazed how quickly people jump to defend this guy when nobody knows the facts.
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March 9th, 2018, 01:45 PM
#149

Originally Posted by
Bushmoose
Granted, but if that person is recognized, and later found, can the image be used as evidence against them?
Definitely...
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March 9th, 2018, 01:50 PM
#150

Originally Posted by
rick_iles
Definitely...
Thanks Rick!