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    2213 Bias ON Issue #29 Sunshine List - 131,741 workers

    I do think it is time to up the list to say $125,000 but here is Doug with the printouts so you get an idea....
    https://twitter.com/fordnation/statu...49285996609538

    Going to the bottom you can see the "benefits" of the Libs to the teachers, a whole bunch of elementary/secondary school teachers... I wonder what the count it by profession.




    Ontario's Sunshine List swells to 131,741 workers
    http://torontosun.com/news/provincia...131741-workers

    Top 10 earners

    Jeffrey Lyash – Ontario Power Generation – $1,554,456.95
    Daren Smith – University of Toronto Asset Management Corp. – $936,089.48
    Glenn Jager – Ontario Power Generation – $858,445.43
    Bruce Campbell – Independent Electricity System Operator – $749,862.59
    Mark Fuller – Ontario Public Service Pension Board – $745,211.84
    Scott Martin – Ontario Power Generation – $739,854.78
    William Reichman – Baycrest Centre For Geriatric Care – $722,875.00
    Jill Pepall – Ontario Public Service Pension Board – $721,224.22
    Michael Apkon – The Hospital For Sick Children – $719,694.40
    Peter Pisters – University Health Network – $718,300.56


    By the numbers

    131,741 – Total number of employees on the 2017 Sunshine List
    $16.8 billion – Total salaries listed on the 2017 Sunshine List
    5,871 – The number of City of Toronto employees making more than $100,000
    7,877 – The number of Sunshine List employees from Ontario Power Generation
    42 – Art Gallery of Ontario employees making more than $100,000
    3,650 – Combined total of TDSB/TDCSB employees on Sunshine List
    417 – OLG employees on the Sunshine List
    1,540 – Toronto Transit Commission workers making more than $100,000
    4,881 – City of Toronto Police Services on the Sunshine List

    Eyebrow raising
    More than a dozen TTC collectors appear on the 2017 Sunshine List, with one raking in more than $130,000.

    Toronto’s top cop
    Police Constable Virani Abdulhameed accumulated $245,611.73 in salary in 2017. By comparison, Chief Mark Saunders brought in $337,744.78.

    Gone but not forgotten

    Ex-TTC head honcho Andrew Byford earned $346,791.51 to keep Toronto moving.
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    Lots on the list are worth $100k but likely more not worth it. Many get there through overtime. Hard to criticize someone willing to work the extra hours. Cops, nurses no problem. Teachers? Ehh....
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    Quote Originally Posted by terrym View Post
    Lots on the list are worth $100k but likely more not worth it. Many get there through overtime. Hard to criticize someone willing to work the extra hours. Cops, nurses no problem. Teachers? Ehh....
    Ya teachers don't get paid for overtime....or there would be a lot more teachers on that sunshine list...
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    I think it would be interesting to have an additional column showing how much overtime people are working.

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    The Sunshine List is basically irrelevant having not been inflation indexed since its initiation. It's always good to raise ire against public servants every year though.

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    There is $16,000,000,000+ in wages on that list alone for the government ... it isn't irrelevant. It is still twice the national average but it should be increased.

    Or let's put it into perspective per person ....$16,000,0000,000/13,600,000 = $1176.47 so say a family of 4 is making the average... which was in the 70s so we can call it $80k with the wage increases that is about 6% of their GROSS wage.

    https://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tab...ovt62d-eng.htm
    Public sector 1,330,805 $74,407,975,000

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    Now we know they have hired thousands more, including the 175 job police so although it isn't as shocking a number as it was a couple decades ago it is still symptomatic of the spending with a firehose tactics of the lieberal's.

    (* 2015 article)
    http://business.financialpost.com/ne...ties-in-canada
    A new study, which tracks employment trends from 2003 to 2013, found Canada’s public sector grew 22.6 per cent — more than double the rise in private-sector jobs

    Ontario was 27% in that period......

    You need to look at the impact and big picture... the fact the lines should be 125,000 or even 150,000 .... so, the relevance is the total, who etc. That a police, nurse, doctor etc. managed to get to $100,000 by working... good for them... an elementary teacher.... that seems a bit high, others put in overtime ... they WORKED for it... good for them! Most relevant is that the CEO of a public company is making way more than the same job elsewhere and then throw in some of the others .... that is VERY relevant.


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    Set at over $100,000 in 1996.
    No wonder 21 years later the list grows when the theshold stays the same.




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    Quote Originally Posted by mosquito View Post
    I do think it is time to up the list to say $125,000
    With annual inflation over 21 years factored in that would take it to around $145,000.
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    Many of the CEO's for these public corps in fact make substantially less than the equivalent position in the private realm. Now, should they make as much as they do? Probably not, since decisions go to a board of directors etc. and the CEO is generally a figurehead.
    As for workers on the list...everyone has their own 'scale' they use for determining what their worth is based on one's personal experiences. Does a cop deserve >$100,000? Depends on whether I generalize them as all heroes or or as wasting time standing around during Santa Clause parades.
    What I'm saying is that one cannot simply lump all doctors/nurses/police as "worth" being on the list and teachers/labourers as not.

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    I know of postal workers, (delivery), who make more than100 grand. They walk from dawn till dusk. More power to them.

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