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April 8th, 2018, 04:43 PM
#181

Originally Posted by
welsh
The idea you advance here, that indigenous people are not the equals of whites, is both wrong as a point of law, and deeply racist. On the first of those points, you ought to withdraw your remarks and stop propagating lies; on the second, you ought to be ashamed, though I doubt you ever can be.
AJ,you blew it. Nowhere can a "racist" comment be remotely construed from that post. Now,don't be a stubborn Liberal and apologize.
If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....
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April 8th, 2018 04:43 PM
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April 8th, 2018, 05:01 PM
#182

Originally Posted by
BigTurk
You do realize that in the previous trial you spoke of (i am assuming it’s Bouchie...so if its not I apologize) that there were peers selected of the person whom was shot.
What group forms the "peers of the person whom [sic] was shot?"

Originally Posted by
BigTurk
How do you get a fair trial by having peers of the perpetrator as the jury?
How do the "peers of the perpetrator" differ from the peers of the accused?
The thing speaks for itself.
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April 8th, 2018, 07:11 PM
#183

Originally Posted by
welsh
The thing speaks for itself.
Yes they do...... and the comments weren't racist and as much as you try to back peddle, you owe BigTurk an apology calling him out because you read more into it than there was.
Last edited by MikePal; April 8th, 2018 at 07:18 PM.
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April 8th, 2018, 08:01 PM
#184
You're confused. I'm not backpedaling.
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April 8th, 2018, 08:46 PM
#185

Originally Posted by
welsh
What group forms the "peers of the person whom [sic] was shot?"
How do the "peers of the perpetrator" differ from the peers of the accused?
The thing speaks for itself.
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They don’t! That was not my intent. I would have said the same thing if the tables were turned and perspective jurors (regardless of race,creed or colour!) were overheard saying they were not going to rule in Bouchies favour!!! What’s the difference??? You tell me sir!
Welsh, like I said, you don’t know me. I have been a victim of racism during my lifetime. I am of German decent. The crap I dealt with growing up was ruthless! I can honestly say I would not wish it upon anyone. There is no room for it in today’s society.
These days it’s too easy to misconstrue what others say and call it racist and that is exactly what you have done. You sir are the one confused. Manipulating a conversation and hurling serious accusations as racist is inexcusable! Especially to try an win an argument in support of some stupid political ideology.
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April 9th, 2018, 06:12 AM
#186

Originally Posted by
BigTurk
You do realize that in the previous trial you spoke of (i am assuming it’s Bouchie...so if its not I apologize) that there were peers selected of the person whom was shot. However they were removed after making several statements that they were going to hang the farmer before the trial began!!!!!
You failed to mention this important fact.
How do you get a fair trial by having peers of the perpetrator as the jury? Where is the justice in that??
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The perpetrator was a white farmer , entire jury was made up of the same... how do you get a fair trial with that jury selection, when the victim is a first nations member? Would you say the same if it was all First Nations on the jury?
Last edited by fishermccann; April 9th, 2018 at 06:21 AM.
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April 9th, 2018, 06:17 AM
#187

Originally Posted by
MikePal
I agree, Welsh's comments are totally uncalled for. Nothing racists was intended in the context of the discussion...
What I got from BTurks post was that he thinks a jury containing First Nations members could not provide a fair trial , but a jury of his peers (whites, farmers, middle aged men) could. That statement sounds racist to me! Even though he seems confused on who the perpetrator on trial is. A fair trial is not some stupid political ideology.
Last edited by fishermccann; April 9th, 2018 at 07:23 AM.
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April 9th, 2018, 06:31 AM
#188
Some here don’t understand the meaning of “peers”....
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April 9th, 2018, 06:44 AM
#189
and on a matter of point...

Originally Posted by
welsh
you ought to withdraw your remarks and stop propagating lies; on the second, you ought to be ashamed, though I doubt you ever can be.
I shows an awful lot of arrogance, when you don't have any authority, to tell someone on a open form to delete something that he posted. You have a problem, report it to a Mod.
Last edited by MikePal; April 9th, 2018 at 07:18 AM.
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April 9th, 2018, 07:17 AM
#190

Originally Posted by
rick_iles
Some here don’t understand the meaning of “peers”....
How so?