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[mosquito]

One thing that I find confusing is the teachers short memories.
They cannot remember what happened to them when Bob Rae was premier and the NDP were in power, now they are backing them again, I can;t believe it!

Let's see... with the debt load and cooked books who ever wins gets..... will we see....

• Horwath Day's?
• Horwath freeze?
• With so many teachers on the Sunshine list I wonder how the tax increase on their book goes over.
• Wonder how the "sanctuary province" will go over once those kids start showing up in the class room.
• Horwath teachers pension fund loan.... atleast loaned until the budget is balanced .... :-D After all it is listed as an asset under the current cooked books... so why not use it for the betterment of all Ontarians ..... or something like that when it comes out.

There are two horrible choices and one that seems fairly good..... the NDP makes the Libs look like a good choice when you look at what they are saying BUT with Unions they will pick best for themselves regardless of the impact to the rest... hence the NDP and probably big wage and pension increases.... deferred until after they balance the budget, of course scheduled in 4 years (prediction of their statement) just before the election. Underhanded deals, waste and tax increases.... that's the Libs AND the NDP. If the Conservatives don't win a majority we are the high gas and high tax and high electricity will look like the good day by the next election!


Just look at the way the left and media are treating a female reporter getting assaulted by ANTIFA.
https://www.therebel.media/media_s_t...on_faith_goldy

[terrym]

God help us.

[kickingfrog]

[73hunter]

What concerns me about Doug Ford is the lack of comprehensive platform released. So far we have had Ford state he would do this and do that. A election platform is a metric to be used by the electorate to judge to worthiness of a party to govern and as a yardstick to measure a government's accountability when in power. A series of statements is counter-productive because Ford could end up promising two very different things.

One thing no one wants to touch is how to pay down the debt. For years certain posters (JBen for example) have been stating how bad it is. Right now we pay 12 billion a year in interest with low interest rates. That number will increase when interest rates rise. It is the fourth biggest expenditure in the budget. How much longer before Ontarians think that is a problem. We let this happen. All of us because we didn't say no to governments running deficits. That has to change. We need to fix this before we get to a fiscal equivalency of Greece. For those of you who support the NDP and Liberals, how much better would our programs be with a 12 billion dollars a year increase. For those of us who support PC, how much better would we be with a portion of 12 billion dollars a year in our pockets.

We have to start asking for fiscal responsibility from our politicians. Shifting our glory days to the next generation isn't good enough.

Right on the money Dyth. I wish balanced budgets were enshrined in the Constitution. By most accounts, we are in boom economic times and still can’t balance the books ? Ridiculous

[mosquito]

What concerns me about Doug Ford is the lack of comprehensive platform released. So far we have had Ford state he would do this and do that. A election platform is a metric to be used by the electorate to judge to worthiness of a party to govern and as a yardstick to measure a government's accountability when in power. A series of statements is counter-productive because Ford could end up promising two very different things.

Let me ask a question... you have two enemies that have propaganda machines unequaled, people who will believe what ever those propaganda machines say and the enemy will lie, create fear and uncertainty and insults to gain their way. Do you tell them what you will do? (Hudak) or just play shell games with them. Know your enemies, look back, your enemies incompetent, corrupt and good at lying but if given a chance a good portion will see through the lie and corruption.... others are ideologues/accomplices that would happily see the province burn rather than admit it... look at history and the criminals willing to go down in a blaze of "glory"/ scorched earth .... the Unions want their pockets full, the NDP/Libs are like the National Socialists or Stalins or Chavez supporters etc. jealous of those that are more capable, more honest, work harder etc. and hate them.

I have friends that were in China's cultural revolution and even if the landowner or mayor or even teacher was fair there was always willing to stand up and "testify" against them I was told... and they would die. Look around the world, the left since Lenin's day has used jealousy, division and anger to create fear, hatred, violence and power and money for themselves and we see it getting worse... do you think a decade ago ANTIFA could have assaulted a woman and got away with it.... well they can now.
https://www.therebel.media/media_s_t...on_faith_goldy

We see billionaires in "palaces" in Gaza sending children and thousands to attack and kill others while they line their pockets and spout hatred, we see ISIS/Boko Haram and much more groups (alt-right AND alt-left) spurned on by an ideology, hatred and anger and looking at history Armenian Genocide, Cambodian Genocide, North Korea to this day.... Hatred and jealousy is easy to create, especially with the media machine out there so he can give the left a board to create the us vs them and the fear and lie and spin...because with the mess Ontario is in it will be hard work so I think he is much much better off just pointing out how big of sh** piles they are (and we are talking Apotosaurus size poop piles here), because the media is good coverups for them and the at us vs them and they have CBC (and more) willing to lie and work hard for their winning and hide the reality! *Note Wynnes thanking CBC on air live after the last election saying they worked hard for the Lib win... they did by constant attacks on a target and fear mongering etc..

We know that the Libs have lied, cheated and are incompetent and the NDP promises look to be even worse looking at how much they want to spend and a sanctuary province etc. (and the racist etc comments that the NDP has been getting away with) so his best strategy is just pointing out the truth about them and let them swing at a target they can't find. You should watch Wynne and Horwath's twitters.... talk about angry, paranoid and just plain making up attacks... but given the the polls there are some that will still support putting more holes in a sinking ship and killing the kids and grandkids futures for the comforts of now.

[B.C.Duck]

I'm living with that government, formed from urban uneducated privileged pothead votes from Vancouver and southern Vancouver island. Grizzly hunt banned, blocking pipeline, wanting to bring proportional vote in, increased deficit and on it goes, that's in less than a year. Get out and vote or you'll be living my nightmare.

I think we are in for a minority government. PC or NDP just flip a coin. I guess voters in Ontario don't read the news much. That minority NDP government in BC should be enough to scare the daylights out of anybody with a brain. The Dippers can't count, have no caucus strength and it will be the Bob Rae rule 2.0. I think we are in for 4 years of a spend and tax Lib/NDP coalition and god help us when the interest rates prevent Horwath from making the payroll. PC's are masters at Phuking up sure things.

[Dythbringer]

Let me ask a question... you have two enemies that have propaganda machines unequaled, people who will believe what ever those propaganda machines say and the enemy will lie, create fear and uncertainty and insults to gain their way. Do you tell them what you will do? (Hudak) or just play shell games with them. Know your enemies, look back, your enemies incompetent, corrupt and good at lying but if given a chance a good portion will see through the lie and corruption.... others are ideologues/accomplices that would happily see the province burn rather than admit it... look at history and the criminals willing to go down in a blaze of "glory"/ scorched earth .... the Unions want their pockets full, the NDP/Libs are like the National Socialists or Stalins or Chavez supporters etc. jealous of those that are more capable, more honest, work harder etc. and hate them.

I have friends that were in China's cultural revolution and even if the landowner or mayor or even teacher was fair there was always willing to stand up and "testify" against them I was told... and they would die. Look around the world, the left since Lenin's day has used jealousy, division and anger to create fear, hatred, violence and power and money for themselves and we see it getting worse... do you think a decade ago ANTIFA could have assaulted a woman and got away with it.... well they can now.
https://www.therebel.media/media_s_t...on_faith_goldy

We see billionaires in "palaces" in Gaza sending children and thousands to attack and kill others while they line their pockets and spout hatred, we see ISIS/Boko Haram and much more groups (alt-right AND alt-left) spurned on by an ideology, hatred and anger and looking at history Armenian Genocide, Cambodian Genocide, North Korea to this day.... Hatred and jealousy is easy to create, especially with the media machine out there so he can give the left a board to create the us vs them and the fear and lie and spin...because with the mess Ontario is in it will be hard work so I think he is much much better off just pointing out how big of sh** piles they are (and we are talking Apotosaurus size poop piles here), because the media is good coverups for them and the at us vs them and they have CBC (and more) willing to lie and work hard for their winning and hide the reality! *Note Wynnes thanking CBC on air live after the last election saying they worked hard for the Lib win... they did by constant attacks on a target and fear mongering etc..

We know that the Libs have lied, cheated and are incompetent and the NDP promises look to be even worse looking at how much they want to spend and a sanctuary province etc. (and the racist etc comments that the NDP has been getting away with) so his best strategy is just pointing out the truth about them and let them swing at a target they can't find. You should watch Wynne and Horwath's twitters.... talk about angry, paranoid and just plain making up attacks... but given the the polls there are some that will still support putting more holes in a sinking ship and killing the kids and grandkids futures for the comforts of now.

Sorry bud. Ford wants to be Premier. In order to get the job, he needs to do the work and come up with a comprehensive, accountable platform. One of the cornerstones of a good democracy is the ability of the electorate to be educated on and disseminate political party's stances on issues and their plan for governing. Ford shouting from the stump about how bad the other two are, announcing his plan piecemeal, following up questions about his announcements about how we are going to afford it by stating "You will see how we are going to do it" without a comprehensive, accountable platform is irresponsible.

Every voter in Ontario is not unlike a member of a board of directors in a company. We have 3 candidates who want to be CEO of our company. Two have come up with plans (I am not going to comment on how bad I think they are) and the other is being secretive about his plans (or worse doesn't have one). It would be irresponsible to pick the third one. I want to know how Ford is going to do the things he is promising by a comprehensive, accountable platform plan. Every voter in Ontario should. He should not get a pass on this matter just because he is not Wynne or Howrath.

The majority of your rant/post has nothing to do with my criticism of Ford or what is happening in Ontario. If you want to debate my point about Ford, debate it. However, bringing up unrelated points about Gaza and any other "Leftist" problem in the world in an attempt to muddy the fact that Ford isn't meeting what I consider a bare minimum as a political leader is weak.

[fishermccann]

Great post Dyth. I think even some Cons. are beginning to realise they chose the wrong leader. You will not get a straight answer because he does not have one. But get ready for a couple of pages of 'cut and paste'. Deflect, deflect deflect.

[mosquito]

... and the minimum is still better than the alternatives by far looking at their policies, promised spending, tax increase, candidates etc.

Here is Doug today.
https://www.facebook.com/FordNationD...6022489185375/
All CBC etc want to ask about is something that happened 2 years ago and was cleared... and I am sure they will bring up a dozen times and I have seen it spun many times already.


and I will simplify it down.


1) Media backs left
2) Outside organizations like Lead Now etc are spending millions to keep Wynne in power
Listening to this in the back ground and Lead Now came up... more Librano action.
https://www.therebel.media/liberals_...line_charities
3) The left and media have got good at misleading, spinning and out right lies and supports a leftist ideology
4) Billions in spending will put interest payments as the largest cost to the government in a decade according to some (depending on interest rates etc)
5) The NDP and Libs want to take and create "incentives" for people to do what they want... just like Justin (likes high gas prices)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtujstXkZ-c
6) Gaza is relevant due to NDP and atleast Federal Lib support for Hamas and also the divisive "us vs them" the left used historically and today while lining their and their supporters pockets. So we see more like this
https://www.thestar.com/news/queensp...h_ontario.html
and
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/poli...hing-quota-to/

It is also relevant in that alt-left violent groups like ANTIFA are backing the current left ideology we see in the Federal and Ontario NDP, they have no problem with violence, UK Antifa and Red Action and here so much so that ANTIFA can assault a woman reporter, police don't act and CBC staff make jokes on twitter.


So get it? Still no?

Super simple so I can go back to work.... NDP are idiots, Libs lie, both increase taxes and are incapable of good job creation only capable of having the gov't hire more to do nothing and NDP even wants to close nuclear plants and create a sanctuary province. Alternative, Doug, wants to reduce taxes and balance budget, what ever he says left will fear monger and lie like they did for Hudak with the media helping. If he says "I like kittens" the media will turn him into a dog hater who likes to cook kittens.... got it yet?

[fishermccann]

I want facts and figures to show how ford is going to do what he says he will. Is that to much to ask? Seems to be.