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July 17th, 2018, 09:11 AM
#61

Originally Posted by
Dythbringer
I am not sure how the CO got the answer incorrect as they were speaking of small game. The only restriction would be in the municipalities which have the .275 (or smaller) caliber restriction.
The answer based on the OP, said a gun that did not use a metallic cartridge, a metallic cartridge or lack there of does not define an antique handgun but rather the proven age of manufacture and the cartridge that it is chambered in. A flintlock pistol made in 1990 is not an antique but a revolver made in 1897 chambered for the 455 Webley, which is still chambered, is considered an antique.
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July 17th, 2018 09:11 AM
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July 17th, 2018, 09:31 AM
#62
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
Fox
The answer based on the OP, said a gun that did not use a metallic cartridge, a metallic cartridge or lack there of does not define an antique handgun but rather the proven age of manufacture and the cartridge that it is chambered in. A flintlock pistol made in 1990 is not an antique but a revolver made in 1897 chambered for the 455 Webley, which is still chambered, is considered an antique.
No, the OP never stated anything about metallic cartridges in his first post. He uses the same conditions the Criminal Code uses to define an antique firearm.
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July 17th, 2018, 09:47 AM
#63

Originally Posted by
Dythbringer
No, the OP never stated anything about metallic cartridges in his first post. He uses the same conditions the Criminal Code uses to define an antique firearm.
This is the direct quote from the first post of the thread.
"Latest edition of Ontario Out of Door, August 2018, Pg 22 Ask a C.O. According to the Provincial Enforcement Specialist for the MNRF, David Critchlow. Antique handguns manufactured before 1898 that do not use metallic rim-fire and centre-fire cartridge, and have not been converted to do so can be used to take small game. Good news for black-powder burners. What hasn't been clarified is whether modern renditions of these firearm will qualify. Could this be the hole in the dike, that those who interested in using modern handguns to hunt with have been looking for? After all a handgun is a handgun whether it is sparked by a primer or a percussion cap. "
Specifically written here.
"Antique handguns manufactured before 1898 that do not use metallic rim-fire and centre-fire cartridge, and have not been converted to do so can be used to take small game."
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July 17th, 2018, 09:57 AM
#64
Has too much time on their hands
The CO states the condition for an antique firearm (which do not fall under restricted/prohibited status) . I can not find anything in the FWCA which precludes antique firearms. So where did the CO get his answer wrong?
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July 17th, 2018, 10:04 AM
#65

Originally Posted by
Dythbringer
The CO states the condition for an antique firearm (which do not fall under restricted/prohibited status) . I can not find anything in the FWCA which precludes antique firearms. So where did the CO get his answer wrong?
The original post for the thread was with respect to the question and answer section of the Ontario Out of Doors magazine where David Critchlow answered that antique handguns can be used for hunting in Ontario and antique handguns are ones that are manufactured before 1898 that do not use metallic rim-fire and center-fire cartridges.
This is essentially saying that muzzle loading or cap and ball handguns are the only ones that are antique, this is not the legal definition of antique in Ontario.
David Critchlow from his answer printed in the magazine does not know the definition of antique in Canada.
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July 17th, 2018, 10:16 AM
#66
Has too much time on their hands
So the fact he didn't add all handguns which qualify as antiques makes his answer incorrect? I disagree. He generalized his answer under the conditions of the Criminal Code, not the Regulations Prescribing Antique Firearms. While I acknowledge he didn't touch upon the regulations, the fact he acknowledges antique firearms are acceptable for small game hunting should be the take away from his answer.