My rant....Give the cops the tools to do their jobs....

[fratri]

[COLOR=#1D2129]Sure am getting really tired of these shootings....WTF a matter with people...

IMO...Previous to this new law (policing)... Criminals were afraid to carry a gun (afraid they would be searched) so they (criminals)would hide their guns and not have them on their possession (too much risk). If gangs got into a conflict, they would have to leave to get those hidden guns, then either they calmed down and let it go (not worth the trouble) or came up with a plan to use those guns carefully so they wouldn't/don't get caught with them..... Then about a year ago, a law was past. Police can no longer search or even ask known criminals about their activities.................. Gangsters now know this and are carrying their guns around on their persons knowing full well police are not allowed to do anything about it.... So now feeling brave, when something/conflict does take place, those gangsters react instantly... There is no cool off time for them because they have guns on them no longer hidden away.... Give the cops the tools to do their job effectively.....after all they are front line workers that used to be able to prevent a lot of this... Banning guns isn't the answer, arresting the criminal is....
[COLOR=#1D2129]One of many links/stories similar to this article can be found easily searching the net..
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/cana...ns-on-carding/

[jaycee]

[COLOR=#1D2129]Sure am getting really tired of these shootings....WTF a matter with people...

IMO...Previous to this new law (policing)... Criminals were afraid to carry a gun (afraid they would be searched) so they (criminals)would hide their guns and not have them on their possession (too much risk). If gangs got into a conflict, they would have to leave to get those hidden guns, then either they calmed down and let it go (not worth the trouble) or came up with a plan to use those guns carefully so they wouldn't/don't get caught with them..... Then about a year ago, a law was past. Police can no longer search or even ask known criminals about their activities.................. Gangsters now know this and are carrying their guns around on their persons knowing full well police are not allowed to do anything about it.... So now feeling brave, when something/conflict does take place, those gangsters react instantly... There is no cool off time for them because they have guns on them no longer hidden away.... Give the cops the tools to do their job effectively.....after all they are front line workers that used to be able to prevent a lot of this... Banning guns isn't the answer, arresting the criminal is....
[COLOR=#1D2129]One of many links/stories similar to this article can be found easily searching the net..
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/cana...ns-on-carding/

I am with you on this Frank, this is also another boondoggle created by the fed. liberals, "no more carding/ checks ".

[trimmer21]

Common sense isn't the forte of the Liberal Party of Canada,but,if enough articles like this keep appearing in traditionally left wing papers,maybe,just maybe,some of the leftist idiots might clue in.

[LoR]

Carding sounds great.

Unless your a young man, walking the streets going about life. And your anything but white.

Am willing to bet, 98% of people in favour of it.

Are white
Are female
Have never spent more than a couple hours, on the other side of the tracks or on “the mean streets”. In the projects.

[rick_iles]

I am with you on this Frank, this is also another boondoggle created by the fed. liberals, "no more carding/ checks ".

This is Provincial , courtesy of the Wynne gang!
Street checks were a very valuable tool for intelligence gathering. There have been many examples of intelligence gathered by street checks being instrumental in solving serious crimes.
This spike in crime was predicted by police chiefs when the carding was eliminated.

[mosquito]

This is Provincial , courtesy of the Wynne gang!
Street checks were a very valuable tool for intelligence gathering. There have been many examples of intelligence gathered by street checks being instrumental in solving serious crimes.
This spike in crime was predicted by police chiefs when the carding was eliminated.

There are many examples of carding catching wanted criminals. They were checking people but maybe not carding and caught the one they thought was involved in the boxing day shooting of the young woman a few years back and he wasn't the shooter BUT was caught with a loaded gun .... less than a month after serving 30 days for armed robbery... the courts are a bigger issue in many cases. I wonder what would happen if say the judge was held responsible for criminals released or charges dismissed for 3 or 6 months .... even just a financial penalty and recording it on their record. Say for example that armed robber when rearrested had that information even just added to the record of the judge that gave the 30 days... we don't know the details but 30 days for armed robbery, caught with a handgun a few weeks after releases .... something is really wrong and there are thousands of cases like that!

The libs and criminals and their supporters more and more want the police to be like wooden statues on the corner, decoration .... unless of course it involves themselves. The grandma heckler found that out in Quebec what the left want police for.

[Sharon]

Carding sounds great.

Unless your a young man, walking the streets going about life. And your anything but white.

Am willing to bet, 98% of people in favour of it.

Are white
Are female
Have never spent more than a couple hours, on the other side of the tracks or on “the mean streets”. In the projects.

I think you are right; no easy answers to the "carding" rules.

[grumpygeezer]

yes it seems the bad guys have all the rights at their disposal but the honest gun owner and sportsman take the brunt of all the negative press the media is so quick to provide to the general public. Just my opinion, but a lot of people just want to ban guns all together because of it, some who have no clue about hunting, wildlife management and sport shooting.

[LoR]

No, there are no easy answers Sharon. I am not against carding, but I have “lived” on the other side of the tracks. Have actually walked in their shoes, unlike most, who really have no idea, no appreciation for the realities. Two very different worlds. We might as well, be discussing and debating what’s best for people that live on the moon. Very few people have any actual experience, relevance.

It’s little different than Canadians, who don’t know much about say, guns, suggesting bans are the answer.....”funny that”

Most of the people that post in these threads, cause the liberals of targeting law abiding gun owners..............most resent feeling singled out, and caught in the same net.....the problem isn’t us, it’s the criminals......... “funny that”

Most of the people that respond and discuss these things, dont like the idea of the new police powers and random checks, no probable cause needed, with respect to impaired driving.........most will throw hissy fits, and call the Liberals every name in the book, they Day cops start pulling people over, and demanding breathalyzer........funny that...

Can’t suck and blow at the same time....
Yet, most are more than willing to throw these people under the bus.


Walk a mile imo, spend a year in Regent Park, or a year in the jungle ( cute name for the projects immediately south of York Dale mall). I’ve done both.

[trimmer21]

No, there are no easy answers Sharon. I am not against carding, but I have “lived” on the other side of the tracks. Have actually walked in their shoes, unlike most, who really have no idea, no appreciation for the realities. Two very different worlds. We might as well, be discussing and debating what’s best for people that live on the moon. Very few people have any actual experience, relevance.

It’s little different than Canadians, who don’t know much about say, guns, suggesting bans are the answer.....”funny that”

Most of the people that post in these threads, cause the liberals of targeting law abiding gun owners..............most resent feeling singled out, and caught in the same net.....the problem isn’t us, it’s the criminals......... “funny that”

Most of the people that respond and discuss these things, dont like the idea of the new police powers and random checks, no probable cause needed, with respect to impaired driving.........most will throw hissy fits, and call the Liberals every name in the book, they Day cops start pulling people over, and demanding breathalyzer........funny that...

Can’t suck and blow at the same time....
Yet, most are more than willing to throw these people under the bus.


Walk a mile imo, spend a year in Regent Park, or a year in the jungle ( cute name for the projects immediately south of York Dale mall). I’ve done both.

Excellently illustrated. Everyone seems to forget that laws enacted to "alleviate" the criminal element in one segment of society can be applied to all segments of society. People that think it would be a great idea to stop others and demand ID in "troubled" neighborhoods need to be reminded that it will apply to them,too,in their cushy,upscale suburban neighborhood. Others who think it's a good idea to hammer the h**l out of those who misuse firearms forget that those laws also apply to hunters and target shooters who may commit a minor infraction with their firearm and end up in court accused of a firearm offense that could land them in jail for a few years under mandatory sentencing requirements. The old adage is absolutely true "Be careful what you wish for. You might just get it."