The biggest problem at the camp is that some hunters enjoying trying to control .... the

[Hunter John]

I'm not even sure what I just read, lots of ery in this thread.

[Birdbuff]

Since we are so off topic....how about those leafs......lol!

[greatwhite]

Well back in the old days when my Grandfather was raising my mom after the war, he shot deer anyway he could.

What I mean to say is get on the ground and hunt the deer, stalk. Driving them like Portuguese and croations on 4 wheelers isnt hunting.

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[73hunter]

No doubt the broad brush approved for use by your "Atoner."

You beat me to it !

[gbk]

I am neither Portuguese nor Croatian(proper spelling -not croation as you wrote.......... since they are members of a nation,the name deserves a capital C) ... Driving them like Portuguese and croations on 4 wheelers isnt hunting. ......what on Earth Your comment means?
If You happen to met some members of these two lively nations-and if they supposedly did something "wrong"to YOUR liking,it still does not entitle you to paint all of them the same Brush.........just saying,since blaming all members of a nation for a wrongdoing of few is also VERY unethical.

[smitty55]

What I mean to say is get on the ground and hunt the deer, stalk. Driving them like Portuguese and croations on 4 wheelers isnt hunting.

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So according to you the only acceptable method of hunting is to still hunt? Is that right? I guess using a feeder is verboten to you too?
Do you even know anything about doing a push? Sometimes you need to move the deer, it's a basic tactic, go figure. There are many different variations. I've never hunted with dogs but there's not much that gets you more revved up than being out on a stand and hearing a neighbouring camps' dogs heading your way. Some dogs move deer slow. Our camp of four guys hunted 500 acres of crown land and our push consisted of two guys slowly working their way around and barking sometimes. Might take up to an hour. Some big camps will push a bush hard with 4 or more guys barking instead of dogs and post guys around the perimeter. I literally see can see the guys posted across the road from me on the farmer's property during the rifle season.
The point being is that there are many traditional styles of hunting that have been done for over a hundred years, for you to come on a hunting forum like this and preach your skewed concept of what deer hunting has to be is a total farce, and that's being nice. Like why are you even here if that's what your contribution to this thread consists of?
As for your your last sentence???? Well you just keep changing feet it seems.

[atoned4.byhim]

I like to stalk. Hunt edges of corn/soy fields. I've heard too many stories from friends that go on drives about standing in trees and blasting at random when the deer come frantically running past them. Some they kill instantly, some they wing and some they don't even find. That's what leaves a bad taste in my mouth about digging or driving the bush that's all. I guess I'm more of a traditionalist.

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[rf2]

I guess I'm more of a traditionalist.

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I don't usually get involved in these types of discussions, but...
You don't know what you are talking about.
Tradition? What do you know about the hunting traditions in Ontario? I don't hunt with dogs, but even I know that that is a traditional way of hunting deer around here.

[LiveBates]

This guy's out to lunch. I can't wait to hear our dogs this year. We've got two that will be running on they're own this year for the first time. Judging from last year, they should be god to go

[jaycee]

Well , Mr. atoned4. by him, you shouldn,t have some one else do the atoning for you.
You should be atoning for the scurrilous claims you posted about the Portuguese and croations [your spelling mistake] , and the traditions that have been passed on for many years that you know nothing about but you are bad mouthing them.
You have left a bad taste in our mouths with your high and mighty attitude .
Make your amends, and go back to where you came from .