This Should send a message to the Government of Quebec and the Federal Liberals

[Species8472]

Gum registration is about property rights not hunting....

Your dentist might disagree.

Supporting in principle people who challenge bad laws thru civil disobedience is a cornerstone to a good democracy. Whether you comply with a bad law or not is a personal choice and if you willing to face the ramifications of your actions all the power to you.

As I more less stated in my post civil disobedience should be supported in some cases.

[MikePal]

Here's the article that lays out the problem with the Registry for the Indigenous of Quebec...

At least they can now put it forward to Shamus O'Tool ..the new minister of Everything Indigenous

Sioui said he wasn't surprised but was "disappointed" Quebec acted unilaterally.

"Even the Supreme Court of Canada was extremely clear - in at least two cases - that federal and provincial governments need to do their best to consult with First Nations and to ensure that the application of laws (affecting us) is acceptable," he said. "All that was left out."
Sioui said the federal database was a failure for aboriginal people because most of them didn't register and were criminalized as a result.

He said hunting rifles move around often on reserves, between family members and friends, and the federal law wasn't adapted to the realities and lifestyles of Canada's natives.

Moreover, Sioui says the regulation of firearms is a federal jurisdiction and Coiteux needs to explain to community leaders how Quebec's new law relates to Aboriginal Peoples across the country.

Sebastien Grammond, a University of Ottawa law professor and an expert on aboriginal legal issues, said provinces and the federal government have the legal right to legislate for the control of firearms.

"There is no doubt a province can create its own registry," he said.

Sioui maintains a better approach would have been to grant First Nations communities the power to create their own registry - an idea the provincial government rejected.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/quebec...2946298http://

[73hunter]

Play on the opposite side of the law and find out what happens. LEO's charge who they want and let the courts sort it out whether your guilty or not. Some guys are very green to how they think all police work....

Thus my comment about LEO’s not having an axe to grind.

[canadaman30]

Thus my comment about LEO’s not having an axe to grind.

If you actually think all LEO's play by the book and treat everyone the same and fair, you sir are sadly mistaken...

[trimmer21]

If you actually think all LEO's play by the book and treat everyone the same and fair, you sir are sadly mistaken...

".....without fear,favor or malice aforethought" went out the window with quota hiring and dumbed down qualifications to suit the multicultural agenda. Canada is in a lot worse shape,now, than has ever been in history.

[mosquito]

Seems I should have put this here after reading...... and on and on the media go with the fear... and the conclusion ... ban semi's of course. Well to be expected when Ryerson is a partner... Blair is the "hero" of the left that will save them from mass shootings.... they start with handgun and "assault" go to automatics, bring up antiques, lie about the catalogue in the 70's and by the time they draw their conclusion all semi's need to be banned ....

https://theconversation.com/should-c...irearms-109536



The federal government has asked Bill Blair, the minister of border security and organized crime reduction, to consider whether Canada should ban handguns and “assault-style” rifles.

The media has focused mostly on the possibility of banning handguns. The idea of outlawing assault-style weapons, however, deserves more attention because this proposal could help avoid mass shootings but is extremely controversial among firearm owners.

The federal government’s engagement paper on possible new gun legislation notes that Canada’s current firearms legislation contains no definition of an assault rifle.

The paper instead offers an illustrative description from the United States Department of Justice: “In general, assault weapons are semi-automatic firearms with a large magazine of ammunition that were designed and configured for rapid fire.”

This definition suggests that the federal government is considering a ban on many semi-automatic rifles — that is, guns that can be fired each time the trigger is pulled. Such guns are distinguishable from manual action firearms that require shooters to use a mechanism to reload guns after each discharge, thus limiting rate of fire, and from fully automatic firearms that continue to fire so long as the trigger is depressed.

Canada has long prohibited the possession of automatic guns.

Some semi-automatic firearms are non-restricted, meaning they can be used for hunting and only require purchasers to obtain a basic possession and acquisition licence.

Other semi-automatic guns are classified as “restricted” weapons. Such guns must be registered and are usually only fired at shooting ranges. Owners must possess a different licence and must have authorization to transport such firearms from one location to another.
Historical context of Canadian gun control

The interest in stricter regulations for semi-automatic firearms, particularly guns based on modified military weapons, reflects historic changes in gun design, marketing and ownership in Canada.

At the beginning of the 19th century, long guns were generally single-shot, muzzle-loaded, smooth-bore weapons that were slow to load, inaccurate beyond approximately 100 metres, and often misfired.
An antique 1876 lever-action rifle. (Shutterstock)

In the mid- to late 19th century, however, breech-loading guns replaced muzzle-loaded weapons. New ammunition and rifled barrels made guns more accurate at long ranges. Manufacturers also developed firearms with magazines that could hold several rounds of ammunition to allow more rapid firing. Typically, these guns used “lever action” or “bolt action” designs to load fresh cartridges into the chamber of the barrel.

When many Canadians think of a hunting rifle, what comes to mind is one of these guns, such as a lever-action Winchester rifle. Generations of Canadians used such guns to hunt deer, moose and other game.

Historic department store catalogues suggest that the popularity of semi-automatic guns among hunters is quite new. Stores like Eaton’s, Simpson’s and Army & Navy sold mostly manual-action firearms.
Eaton’s catalogue, winter 1934-1935. Library and Archives Canada

In 1975, for instance, Eaton’s advertised few semi-automatic rifles. As semi-automatic firearms entered the marketplace in larger numbers, however, some Canadians began to express concern about their availability.

Semi-automatic rifles have been used in many of the most infamous mass murders in Canadian history, including the murder of 14 women in the 1989 Montreal Massacre, the murder of four RCMP officers in Mayerthorpe, Alberta in 2005, the murder of three RCMP officers in Moncton in 2014, and the Quebec mosque shooting of 2017.

Perhaps the first fight over the classification of semi-automatic guns in Canada concerned the AR-15, the firearm used in several recent mass shootings in the United States.
AR-15 restricted in Canada

In 1977, Ottawa made the AR-15 a restricted weapon. Prime Minister Joe Clark’s government reversed that decision, although Ottawa again declared it a restricted firearm in the 1990s. In 2016, Conservative MP Bob Zimmer sponsored a parliamentary petition asking that the AR-15 be reclassified as a non-restricted firearm. The AR-15, however, remains in the restricted category.

Canadians must decide how available modern semi-automatic rifles should be.

Many semi-automatic firearms based on military gun designs are now sold in Canada at stores such as Cabela’s. Manufacturers and retailers often call such weapons “modern sporting rifles” to make them sound less threatening.

Several gun groups like the Canadian Coalition for Firearm Rights argue that all semi-automatics with barrels of a certain length should be non-restricted. They suggest that guns like the AR-15 are restricted simply because of their physical resemblance to military weapons, and have urged politicians to make such guns non-restricted.

In 2016, the Conservative Party considered this change at its national convention, and Maxime Bernier has made this proposal part of his People’s Party platform.

Gun control advocates, meanwhile, question why many semi-automatics, including the Ruger Mini-14 used in the Montreal Massacre, are non-restricted.

The federal government may prove reluctant to prohibit such guns because of opposition from gun groups.
Another option

Another option is possible, however. Ottawa could make all semi-automatic rifles restricted weapons. This would force owners to pass a more rigorous screening process, require the registration of such guns and place limits on how they’re used and transported.

This is not a new idea. In 1977, the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police claimed that semi-automatic guns were “basically designed as an instrument of war” and that they had “no sporting use either in the cultural or recreational sense.” The association thus urged Ottawa “to restrict all semi-automatic weapons as a category.”

Ottawa refused to do it. But recent mass shootings in Canada have shown that such guns, if misused, are dangerous to the public and to law enforcement.

Legislators might well keep in mind the words of A.J. Somerset, author of Arms: The Culture and Credo of the Gun. He warns that as long as semi-automatic, assault-style rifles are widely available in Canada, a massacre like the 2016 nightclub shooting in Orlando, Fla., “is not simply a U.S. nightmare on the news; it’s a shadow falling over us, a possibility we can’t ignore.”

[rick_iles]

What is an”assault weapon”??
Is it the large capacity mag??? If so, that issue has been dealt with by banning them and limiting mag capacities. Is it the semi-automatic action ?? If so, my Remington 740 will be classed as an “assault weapon”... IMHO, Blair needs to establish a definition first....
In the mean time, I’m holding off buying a Benelli MR1 for coyote swatting !!

[Fox]

In the mean time, I’m holding off buying a Benelli MR1 for coyote swatting !!

You holding off makes it easier for them to take them away.

[rick_iles]

You holding off makes it easier for them to take them away.

That makes no sense at all !!

[canadaman30]

You holding off makes it easier for them to take them away.

Sounds like you have all the answers

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