Apprentice licence

[udderbrudder]

My gf's daughter spent the weekend taking the hunter safety and firearms course. She passed with all marks in the 90's and top of the class. She's 12 and most of the class was adults (hehe). Im so proud of her. My question for you folks is about the licence. Her instructor says a lot changed Jan1. Does she need to apply to CFO for a possession lic? Or simply carry a certificate which would accompany my PAL?

[rick_iles]

https://www.ontario.ca/page/hunter-education

You should find it in this site...

[genec]

She cannot get a Minor's permit until she turns 15.
I've included the excerpt from the hunting regs below re apprentices:

Class A1 Hunter Apprenticeship Safety Card
The A1 Hunter Apprenticeship Safety Card permits the cardholder to hunt with all methods permitted under the Act and regulations. Applicants for this version of the Hunter Apprenticeship Safety Card must be 12 years of age or older and will have to provide documentation that they have passed both the Ontario Hunter Education Course exam and the Canadian Firearms Safety Course exam. These courses are available in a “One-Stop” combined course; however, both courses are available independently if desired. “One-Stop” graduates will meet provincial training requirements to hunt with a gun or bow hunting equipment and the federal training requirements for firearms possession, acquisition and ownership. (NOTE: To own or acquire a gun, you must be 18 years of age or older.)
Class A2 Hunter Apprenticeship Safety Card
The A2 Hunter Apprenticeship Safety Card permits the cardholder to hunt with all methods permitted under the Act and regulations except guns. Applicants for this version of the Hunter Apprenticeship Safety Card must be 12 years of age or older and provide documentation that they have passed the Ontario Hunter Education Course exam.
Other Hunter Apprenticeship Safety Program Requirements:
Written parental consent is required before a hunting Outdoors Card or Apprentice Safety Card can be issued if the applicant is less than 16 years of age. Consent is required from both parents if the applicant resides with both parents or from one parent or guardian if not living with both parents.
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The applicant must be a resident of Ontario.
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The apprentice, while hunting, must be under the direct and immediate supervision of a mentor who is 18 years of age or
older, and who holds a valid Outdoors Card of the equivalent class and a valid hunting licence for the game species being hunted.
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The apprentice must share a single firearm with the mentor.
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An apprentice must possess a federal Migratory Game Bird Hunting Permit to hunt migratory game birds.
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With the exception of migratory game birds, game wildlife taken by the apprentice must be added to the daily bag limit of the mentor.
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A Hunter Apprenticeship Safety Card is valid for three years.
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Apprentices must carry the Hunter Apprenticeship Safety Card with them while hunting.

[udderbrudder]

She cannot get a Minor's permit until she turns 15.
I've included the excerpt from the hunting regs below re apprentices:

Class A1 Hunter Apprenticeship Safety Card
The A1 Hunter Apprenticeship Safety Card permits the cardholder to hunt with all methods permitted under the Act and regulations. Applicants for this version of the Hunter Apprenticeship Safety Card must be 12 years of age or older and will have to provide documentation that they have passed both the Ontario Hunter Education Course exam and the Canadian Firearms Safety Course exam. These courses are available in a “One-Stop” combined course; however, both courses are available independently if desired. “One-Stop” graduates will meet provincial training requirements to hunt with a gun or bow hunting equipment and the federal training requirements for firearms possession, acquisition and ownership. (NOTE: To own or acquire a gun, you must be 18 years of age or older.)
Class A2 Hunter Apprenticeship Safety Card
The A2 Hunter Apprenticeship Safety Card permits the cardholder to hunt with all methods permitted under the Act and regulations except guns. Applicants for this version of the Hunter Apprenticeship Safety Card must be 12 years of age or older and provide documentation that they have passed the Ontario Hunter Education Course exam.
Other Hunter Apprenticeship Safety Program Requirements:
Written parental consent is required before a hunting Outdoors Card or Apprentice Safety Card can be issued if the applicant is less than 16 years of age. Consent is required from both parents if the applicant resides with both parents or from one parent or guardian if not living with both parents.
•
The applicant must be a resident of Ontario.
•
The apprentice, while hunting, must be under the direct and immediate supervision of a mentor who is 18 years of age or
older, and who holds a valid Outdoors Card of the equivalent class and a valid hunting licence for the game species being hunted.
•
The apprentice must share a single firearm with the mentor.
•
An apprentice must possess a federal Migratory Game Bird Hunting Permit to hunt migratory game birds.
•
With the exception of migratory game birds, game wildlife taken by the apprentice must be added to the daily bag limit of the mentor.
•
A Hunter Apprenticeship Safety Card is valid for three years.
•
Apprentices must carry the Hunter Apprenticeship Safety Card with them while hunting.

Thanks for the replies. I did read this. But I also read the apprenticeship program is for 12-14 year olds. So what happens at 15? She can buy her own licence and game seal but still has to be with someone with PAL?

[Fox]

She cannot get a Minor's permit until she turns 15.

This is not correct, she cannot have her own firearm for the purpose of general hunting until the age of 15 but she can have her Minors Permit at the age of 12 and in some cases even younger than 12.

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/f...mineur-eng.htm

[Fox]

Thanks for the replies. I did read this. But I also read the apprenticeship program is for 12-14 year olds. So what happens at 15? She can buy her own licence and game seal but still has to be with someone with PAL?

12-14 is the apprenticeship, 15 she can get her own full license and also get a Minor's permit which will allow her to borrow a firearm for the purpose of hunting and have her own bag limit and allow her to apply for big game draws, she could hunt with a bow without this permit though, at 15 she needs consent from her parents to be able to get a hunting license. At 16 she can get a hunting license without permission of her parents and needs to have her minor's permit though if she wants to hunt with a firearm, a bow would be legal without a minor's permit, there is no age restriction in Canada to purchase a bow. At 18 she can get her PAL, if she took the minor's permit course that is the same safety course so just fill out the paperwork and pay to get her PAL.

As a side note, do not lose the firearms safety course paperwork, they do not consider a Minor's Permit proof of passing the course, the PAL application is not a renewal but rather a new license.

[Snip]

Again some more clarification it is my understanding as of January 1, 2019 she can now purchase her own game tags and therefore have her own bag limit but is not allowed to apply for big game draws until she is 15. the sharing of the firearm still stands.

[Fox]

Again some more clarification it is my understanding as of January 1, 2019 she can now purchase her own game tags and therefore have her own bag limit but is not allowed to apply for big game draws until she is 15. the sharing of the firearm still stands.

I think this works out to give the government more money, do they have to buy their own license? If so then she would have to buy her own small game license, etc, I doubt you will ever go out and shoot 6 and she shoot 6 cottontails.

[BPR 30-06]

My gf's daughter spent the weekend taking the hunter safety and firearms course. She passed with all marks in the 90's and top of the class. She's 12 and most of the class was adults (hehe). Im so proud of her. My question for you folks is about the licence. Her instructor says a lot changed Jan1. Does she need to apply to CFO for a possession lic? Or simply carry a certificate which would accompany my PAL?

Ontario Hunter Apprenticeship Safety Program
The Hunter Apprenticeship Safety Program allows new hunters to learn from an experienced mentor. It is designed to introduce young people to hunting and is open to Ontario residents who are 12 to 14 years old. To participate, you need to pass the Ontario Hunter Education Program, including the exam.

When you pass the course, you’ll receive a copy of the Ontario Hunter Education Examination Report. You will need to bring your copy to a participating ServiceOntario location that provides hunting licence services to file your hunter accreditation with the Fish and Wildlife Licensing Service. Once this is filed you must purchase an Outdoors Card, and then have the option of purchasing selected hunting licences and tags.

Hunter apprentices must:

carry their Outdoors Card with them while hunting
hunt under the direct and immediate supervision of a licensed mentor, 18 years or older, who holds an Outdoors Card, and a valid hunting licence for the game being hunted
share a firearm with their mentor and carry proof of firearm accreditation (if hunting with a gun)
share a bag limit with their mentor (unless the apprentice hunter has purchased their own hunting licences and tags, which allows the apprentice to hunt under their own bag limit)
Only select licences and tags that are not obtained through a draw are available to apprentice hunters, for example a small game licence, wild turkey tag or antlered deer licence
Apprentices who choose to purchase their own licences and tags will have to fulfill the new mandatory hunter reporting requirements.
Apprentice hunters who do not wish to purchase their own licences and currently have a valid hunter apprenticeship safety card can continue to use this card until its expiry date.

[greatwhite]

PAL Minors permit is age 12 - 15. I applied for my sons and of course filled out the visa number without my glasses on.