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February 12th, 2019, 09:28 AM
#61
Look at it this way. By plugging in baiting restrictions,it's a way for the government to give with one hand (spring hunt),then,take it away with the other (extended method restrictions). It's a lot like "suck and blow" at the same time.
If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....
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February 12th, 2019 09:28 AM
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February 12th, 2019, 11:15 AM
#62
As a guy that doesn't hunt bear and isn't really informed on the new regulations. Which restriction is the most awkward for you guys! The minimum distance to a trail? Limitations on baiting amounts? Just curious.
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February 12th, 2019, 12:32 PM
#63

Originally Posted by
DanO
As a guy that doesn't hunt bear and isn't really informed on the new regulations. Which restriction is the most awkward for you guys! The minimum distance to a trail? Limitations on baiting amounts? Just curious.
All of them. It's virtually impossible to meet all the criteria without leaving oneself open to charges. The way it's written,it's like it's been carefully crafted and calculated on purpose. I've posted this before,but, a friend heads into the bush well before first light and cooks up a big breakfast with bacon,eggs,fired potatoes and coffee. He swears that if there's hungry bears within a couple of miles,they'll show up in short order. That takes care of the bait distance issue. This year,I think I might try that. Who knows,it sounds logical.
Last edited by trimmer21; February 12th, 2019 at 12:36 PM.
If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....
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February 12th, 2019, 01:26 PM
#64

Originally Posted by
DanO
As a guy that doesn't hunt bear and isn't really informed on the new regulations. Which restriction is the most awkward for you guys! The minimum distance to a trail? Limitations on baiting amounts? Just curious.
There are no restrictions on bait amount, type or presentation at this point - but it was batted around a year or two ago but not put into effect. The distance requirements are baits have to be 200 metres from trails/roads and 500 metres from a residence unless you have permission from the owner of the residence. I know a lot of people have issue with this especially the guys that hunt the southern end of the range where the cottage density is high. I hunt the northern part of 47 - just south of Lake Nipissing and have not found it to be a problem. That being said I use a canoe to get further back and this mitigates the problem but does add a layer to the work involved.
The wilderness is not a stadium where I satisfy my ambition to achieve, it is the cathedral where I worship.
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February 12th, 2019, 02:02 PM
#65
Does MNR react on a complaint based system or are they actually out there randomly GPSing baits to trail distances?? I could see the minimum distance being a problem on the Bruce Peninsula for sure.
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February 12th, 2019, 02:11 PM
#66
I wonder if the bears know that they need to keep back from the trails that same distance too. 
For me, that 200yds from a trail is a big hindrance....that's a heck of a long way to bring in your gear and drag out a bear....Unless you think outside the box like Species8472 does (water travel) it's hard for one person to do it all from 200yds off the trail...
Last edited by fratri; February 12th, 2019 at 07:48 PM.
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February 12th, 2019, 02:26 PM
#67

Originally Posted by
DanO
Does MNR react on a complaint based system or are they actually out there randomly GPSing baits to trail distances?? I could see the minimum distance being a problem on the Bruce Peninsula for sure.
My guess is that it is a combination of complaints and non-random observation - i.e if a CO sees you drive by on an ATV loaded with baiting supplies during bear season than he/she would probably follow/stop you and check things out.
The wilderness is not a stadium where I satisfy my ambition to achieve, it is the cathedral where I worship.
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February 12th, 2019, 05:26 PM
#68

Originally Posted by
DanO
Does MNR react on a complaint based system or are they actually out there randomly GPSing baits to trail distances?? I could see the minimum distance being a problem on the Bruce Peninsula for sure.
Trust me,if there's a complaint,the CO's will use every means available,even measuring down to the last inch if necessary. There's no room for error.
If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....