Coyote Poacher Kills Dog - Chatham Area

[Snowwalker]

Have a look at this Rankin Garage case.The poor owner of this garage had to go to the Supreme Court to get several decisions overturned which made him liable for some kids stealing car while drunk from his lot.Pretty scary. https://www.scc-csc.ca/case-dossier/cb/37323-eng.pdf

The darning thing in his case was that he always left the keys for the car/truck in the cup holder..

[trimmer21]

A badge is not needed at all in some area,s and the excuse to kill a dog could be pretty slim ie the dog was threatening me?The law in unorganized Townships,s


3) Where any person finds a dog running at large contrary to this Regulation and the dog is in the act of attacking or threatening to attack a human being, he or she may kill the dog.

(4) No damage or compensation shall be recovered for the killing of a dog under this section. R.R.O. 1990, Reg. 732, s. 5.

The guy who shot this farmers dog will probably get hammered with a careless hunting charge just on the fact he shot a dog wearing a collar for a coyote,never mind the closeness to the farm and trespass.The fact he moved the bloody dog will also gleam plenty of DNA evidence should they wish to pursue this far.I would think a fine in the $1000 to $3000 range is the average right now.Might also get a ban on the hunting license if they had one.

Youbetcha! I'm well aware of dogs running at large that have a real belligerent attitude in an unorganized township is a no-brainer,for sure. I was writing specifically of regular guy hunters in the lower counties who seem to think a hunting license gives them "carte blanche" authority to dispatch any dog running at large. People with tht attitude and dumb jackasses that pull the crap in the OP I want to see have their arses nailed to the nearest wall.

[Gilroy]

Youbetcha! I'm well aware of dogs running at large that have a real belligerent attitude in an unorganized township is a no-brainer,for sure. I was writing specifically of regular guy hunters in the lower counties who seem to think a hunting license gives them "carte blanche" authority to dispatch any dog running at large. People with tht attitude and dumb jackasses that pull the crap in the OP I want to see have their arses nailed to the nearest wall.

I agree with you that this law is for unorganized townships and does not apply to this situation,but I wanted to highlight the law because its implications are important.There are many groups running hounds after deer in unorganized townships because this is where we still have vast areas of Crown land to run on.
The law is written in such a way that almost any running dog could get killed.I remember last year on this forum we discussed a beagle being killed while it was running deer by a hunter in a neighboring camp who said he was threatened by the dog.

I do not know why this law in unorganized townships was enacted,maybe because of the lack of bye law officers.I do know on aboriginal reserves there are lots of stray dogs forming feral packs that could be a serious threat to citizens,maybe this was the initiative for the law as its written.I suspect some of us will be surprised by the wording of this law.

[js4fn]

Article in local newspaper

[benjhind]

https://www.chathamdailynews.ca/news...-investigating

[angelo]

I haven't posted in awhile, first off, what happened was a terrible event for this family. Secondly, as a learning experience for all members, please identify the characteristics of this animal that would lead to a positive identification as a domestic dog. I'm not trying to cause a stir but I can see how someone looking through a scope could mistake this animal as a coyote. I've personally hesitated shooting coyotes until I was confident that it was not a domestic dog due to all the hunting I do in somewhat built up areas. I look for gait and behavior to tip me off. Any other recommendations.

[cath8r]

The Facebook generation looking for the 'hero shot' and the accompanying likes is likely at play in this case. I've never seen so much road shooting, wanton tresspassing and shoot first identify later as the last 10 years. The dog was on his own property. Case closed. Not at large. Hope the perpetrators have the book thrown at them. Law enforcement likely has a good idea of the perpetrators.

[SkyHawk]

Is shooting somebody's family dog not covered in the Ontario Hunter's Education course? I mean, for those who haven't learned this already in everyday life. Can you sleep through this course and still pass? I don't believe people are inherently bad, but stupid... A little education should eliminate these sort of mistakes.

[Snowwalker]

Is shooting somebody's family dog not covered in the Ontario Hunter's Education course? I mean, for those who haven't learned this already in everyday life. Can you sleep through this course and still pass? I don't believe people are inherently bad, but stupid... A little education should eliminate these sort of mistakes.

How "much" education do you think it would take? ( Rhetoric Question)

An eight to ten hour class will never cover enough, a two week course would only discourage most.

Some people come from Families that hunt, and have been spoon feed over years growing up.

Others are lost before they even start, and can only try to memorize the right answers and pass.

[blasted_saber]

I haven't posted in awhile, first off, what happened was a terrible event for this family. Secondly, as a learning experience for all members, please identify the characteristics of this animal that would lead to a positive identification as a domestic dog. I'm not trying to cause a stir but I can see how someone looking through a scope could mistake this animal as a coyote. I've personally hesitated shooting coyotes until I was confident that it was not a domestic dog due to all the hunting I do in somewhat built up areas. I look for gait and behavior to tip me off. Any other recommendations.

Not tresspassing would be my very first recommendation