Ontario Announces New Big Game Management Advisory Committee

[rick_iles]

IMO at this point, it doesn’t even matter what the license hunters do, we are now only a very small proportion of the Moose harvest that they can control.
How can you manage a resource when you don’t even know what the unlicensed hunters are doing and can’t control them or even talk about it.
All the MNRF cares about is getting your money up front for a chance in a draw.
We are following the footsteps of Manitoba. History will repeat itself.
It’s a shame. IMO

You can’t blame the MNRF for the “unregulated” hunting. Blame the government and the courts !!

[Deer Hunter]

You can’t blame the MNRF for the “unregulated” hunting. Blame the government and the courts !!

Fair enough. But how is that working for us?

[JMatthews]

They concluded that overharvesting was the main cause of the Moose decline. Government closed the license hunter moose hunt. First Nation and Metis agreed to stop their traditional Moose hunt.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manit...-act-1.3352564
https://mwf.mb.ca/2016/09/02/manitob...aign-document/
Lots of different articles about it. In the end they had to be honest and open about all issues.
This is what is happening in Ontario, nobody wants to talk about it.

Without First Nation people included in a ban on hunting for a number of years, there will be no change. Increasing the number of predator tags and making them cheaper or free, would also help. Once Moose hunting is resumed, it should be bull tags only and the populations monitored until numbers improve.

[fishfood]

IMO at this point, it doesn’t even matter what the license hunters do, we are now only a very small proportion of the Moose harvest that they can control.
How can you manage a resource when you don’t even know what the unlicensed hunters are doing and can’t control them or even talk about it.
All the MNRF cares about is getting your money up front for a chance in a draw.
We are following the footsteps of Manitoba. History will repeat itself.
It’s a shame. IMO

Yeah it's not really fair when they are taking 20 or 30 a year per group. Yet the rest of the population of hunters take the brunt end. Groups spending thousands for a small chance at a moose. Yet they can take where ever and what ever they see them. .



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[Gilroy]

Allowing a calf to be taken on a license each year makes no sense to me. Protecting coyotes miles away from known Algonquin wolf range does not help.Allowing the bear population to increase over the years of the ban did not help and I am not to sure if I want to help the MNR or government rectify their past mistakes.

Right now for WMU 60 for last year bull you needed 15 hunters to get a chance at a tag,something like 4% chance of drawing a individual tag.Deer this year is 63% for a doe tag and has been pretty consistent at this level for years,I have not drawn one in the
last 5 years.

[Snowwalker]

Allowing a calf to be taken on a license each year makes no sense to me. Protecting coyotes miles away from known Algonquin wolf range does not help.Allowing the bear population to increase over the years of the ban did not help and I am not to sure if I want to help the MNR or government rectify their past mistakes.

Right now for WMU 60 for last year bull you needed 15 hunters to get a chance at a tag,something like 4% chance of drawing a individual tag.Deer this year is 63% for a doe tag and has been pretty consistent at this level for years,I have not drawn one in the
last 5 years.

Hell is selling out on heaters today..

I agree with you.

[kk1]

Yeah it's not really fair when they are taking 20 or 30 a year per group. Yet the rest of the population of hunters take the brunt end. Groups spending thousands for a small chance at a moose. Yet they can take where ever and what ever they see them. .



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Exactly! Indians will take whatever they want whenever they want when it comes to moose. Until this issue is addressed moose numbers will continue to decline. We need to stand up to them or work something out that sticks. Until then it will only get worse! Jmo