MNRF cuts.

[GW11]

Actually, funny enough..I was a union steward, many moons ago, and "fell" into it, in much the same way.

Cheers.

It probably amounts to wanting to be the one who speaks for yourself and others rather than wanting someone to speak for you. At least I think that's how I ended up doing it.

It would be a good conversation over a pint or two!

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[LoR]

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/blog...tpace-spending

Are “Teachers” ( note quotes) paid too much? On that specific topic not unsurprising to see the usual green and yellow grass arguments. I wonder how many “teachers” know what their salaries are when annualized...or perhaps they forget theirs isn’t the only profession that requires degrees. Especially these days.......not so special.



So are “ they” over compensated?Of coarse they are. A widget is only worth what the buyer can afford.

and there are 300 billion arguments to support that. Starting with the sorry state of the MC. The tax base. Those people Ms Wynne wanted ORPP for. The bazillions of tax credits, for them.and so very much more....

for the record
re healthcare travel expenses. We live outside Lindsay. Have to travel to the cancer centre at Lakeridge (Oshawa). We get a whopping .58 cent per kilometre credit.

not unsurprisnging the spoon fed think those in northern Ontario shouldn’t be compensated

[awndray]

A cut to the MNRF budget isn't bad in and of itself, so long as the remaining funds are distributed and used appropriately and efficiently. Where the problem lies is in the redundancy of programs and the ineffective policies.

A cut to the conservation authorities on top of the MNRF cht is worrisome however. Here you have organizations that do real work with little funding, but ironically don't have much authority. Instead, MNRF, Parks Canada, Environment Canada and other such departments have authority, but they misappropriate funds and cater to political needs rather than environmental.

This, at a time when Ford, Trudeau and others are showing up for photo ops in flood-ridden areas of the nation's capital.

I'm all for a Conservative government, but you're going to campaign on finding efficiencies, you better be able to show those efficiencies rather than simply cut funding. Consolidate, sure. Cut redundancy, sure. But blanket cuts without a detailed explanation, not so sure.

[terrym]

At the end of the day the simple fact remains that this country and province spends more money every day than it takes in. Not sure how everybody finances their lives but at some point you hit a wall.

[canadaman30]

At the end of the day the simple fact remains that this country and province spends more money every day than it takes in. Not sure how everybody finances their lives but at some point you hit a wall.

Not if your a liberal, the budget will balance itself according to the village idiot.

[gbk]

A widget is only worth what the buyer can afford.

One of the best saying i have heard a long time............How true.Thanx LoR.

There is a lot of talks here about the earning of all the PS of Ontario compared to the "rest"of the populace.
I think we should add on top of that opportunity all the Municipal Government Servants as well(at least good portion of them).

Because it is so true:
A widget is only worth what the buyer can afford.

We as a Province are in major debt,average family earns 75 K(so it was said here)why we should afford PS earning way above and beyond ???
So the average Joe to take home even less (more tax out from our pocket )or pile up more debt (we will pay for it one way, or another).

Hope slowly common sense will prevail in this matter.

And no-i am not against high income of a highly educated persons who sells his-hers knowledge to the market economy or the income of an entrepreneur / business owner etc.As long as they are funded by their own knowledge-hard work etc ,why not earn as much as they can ?


I think we have a paradox -low wages for teachers=low quality of performance.It does not work the other way,and we all know it.How about the ppl who went in the education just because of the $$$$ and perks?And they do not know how to teach............?Being a good teacher was more then an excellent income potential in the olde days-it was also labour of love, passion and devotion.



PS is getting paid by taxpayers-and A widget is only worth what the buyer can afford.

[fishermccann]

Education is not a widget. I look at it this way. You need a pill to make you better , it cost x amount, you can't afford x amount, but if you do not buy the pill, later on down the road that same pill that you must have, will cost you 20 times x. Education is an investment in the future... pay me now or pay me 20 times that later.

[gbk]

FisherMc. -just read over again my post,i did not say the education is a widget-nor implied.
Used the saying since it has a very powerful and fitting meaning to this (by the way totally sidetracked)topic.

[kickingfrog]

Sidetracked? If we go with the original post as to why a 161 million dollar cut to the MNR won't be discussed here the hundred odd post doing everything but, are bang on topic.

[fishermccann]

If we can't discuss massive MNRF cuts on this site, where can-should we? Perhaps on the lawn in front of Queens Park?