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[jaycee]

I would agree with that. Soon as you move to the country that's the things you need, specially an ATV. But perhaps new toys are in the plans.

The regret will come when he has to pay a lot more for the new ATV and Sled, when he already had both that he was using.

[Bowjob]

Well, interesting post as I prepare for the upcoming Hunt Mentoring season in Ottawa. Don't date - the wife don't like it. However, I have managed to get out fishing exactly twice....and produced two bass...and a dozen slimy pike. Still have not shot a gun since Oct last year...I though life was getting easier as I got older and the kids grew up,..nope the 22 yr old is back home...

My hunting prep signal is the last weeks of July is Vacation and then prep of gear, boats, camp stuff occurs full force from that point forward until end of deer season.

Sold the sleds, ATV and Truck Camper as we continue to downsize for move to the country next summer. I fully intend to (hunt/fish) Garden, raise chicken and Milk goats when I retire in 5-6 years. My wife's and I goal is to produce as much of own food as possible and live a simpler life.

Ford/Wynne it didn't matter then, as doesn't matter now. Both are equally horrific and have no desire to stop the gravy train (by debt), each has their own brand of Debt talk, nothing will be resolved or changed in the next 4 yrs. All that is done will be reversed by the next incoming party (unless Libertarian).

In the meantime, the deficit and debt will continue to grow, your freedoms will be continually eroded (as a tax slave), you see because neither of those parties, want change, what to restore and defend property rights, will continue to grow government, which require more tax schemes to pay for it, it is not about you or me in politics anymore.

It is about the only thing that matters to statist Politician - How do I get re-elected in 4 yrs.

You rights and concerns do not matter, unless you are part the demographic that they pander to in between elections. The comments here defending one side or other only proves that...to keep angry..to keep you laser focused..on green/blue narrative...while they guarantee your vote. IF we aren't talking about property right, the deficit, government growth and taxation..then you are programmed to respond accordingly.

Mark (happy fishing until hunting)

well said

[line052]

I do plan to get new toys, but farm specific toys. Roto Tiller, small Kubota tractor with backhoe and bucket, or a farm tractor. Possible a Gator. The move is dependant upon Daughter finishing high school, or getting certified to drive by herself. We want out of the city on minimum 10 acres to qualify for Hobby Farm status.

[Fox]

I do plan to get new toys, but farm specific toys. Roto Tiller, small Kubota tractor with backhoe and bucket, or a farm tractor. Possible a Gator. The move is dependant upon Daughter finishing high school, or getting certified to drive by herself. We want out of the city on minimum 10 acres to qualify for Hobby Farm status.

FYI, you do not want to call it a Hobby Farm, you want to call it a Farm or a Small Farm, Hobby Farms are considered as expected loses by CRA as you are not expecting to make money, I was warned against calling it a Hobby Farm. Also, there is no requirement for acreage to be considered a farm, out our way you just need to be zoned Rural or Agricultural to be able to have farm animals, different municipalities are different though. For property tax purposes you need to prove that your land is being used as a farm, they will take a portion of the property and keep it as residential (I think normally 1 acre) and the rest can be considered a farm for tax purposes if it is being farmed. For CRA purposes they do not care if you have 0.1 acre or 100,000 acres, the income off the farm is farm income, there is a specific form for that when you do your taxes. If that is your only income then you can claim all of your expenses, if it is a partial income then there is a formula that takes that into account. Ask me how I know

Any time you want to chat small farm just give me a shout, getting lambs soon to be ready in the fall, a couple goats as well and the rest of the place is continuing as normal. Take care

[JoePa]

Having some property is real nice - you always have something to do and don't have to go anywhere to be entertained - I always plant a large garden each year - have about 20 fruit trees - real big blueberry patch - cut around 5 or 6 cords of firewood each year - have some chickens - at one time had 7 hives of bees - I'm always doing something - really love where I live - I can hunt deer right on my property and usually get one or two each year - I butcher these myself - if I lived in town some place I'd go nuts - love being busy and doing things -

[line052]

Great Advice, and thank you. I am learning the in/out of the by-laws, designations and zoning required to operate a farm operation. That being said, we have no intent to sell anything (commercial), it would be more along the lines to ensure we can have animals and meet basic land size requirements.

I plan on leaning on your advice, at least to keep me thinking straight...Will you be my mentor...lol

FYI, you do not want to call it a Hobby Farm, you want to call it a Farm or a Small Farm, Hobby Farms are considered as expected loses by CRA as you are not expecting to make money, I was warned against calling it a Hobby Farm. Also, there is no requirement for acreage to be considered a farm, out our way you just need to be zoned Rural or Agricultural to be able to have farm animals, different municipalities are different though. For property tax purposes you need to prove that your land is being used as a farm, they will take a portion of the property and keep it as residential (I think normally 1 acre) and the rest can be considered a farm for tax purposes if it is being farmed. For CRA purposes they do not care if you have 0.1 acre or 100,000 acres, the income off the farm is farm income, there is a specific form for that when you do your taxes. If that is your only income then you can claim all of your expenses, if it is a partial income then there is a formula that takes that into account. Ask me how I know

Any time you want to chat small farm just give me a shout, getting lambs soon to be ready in the fall, a couple goats as well and the rest of the place is continuing as normal. Take care

[Fox]

Great Advice, and thank you. I am learning the in/out of the by-laws, designations and zoning required to operate a farm operation. That being said, we have no intent to sell anything (commercial), it would be more along the lines to ensure we can have animals and meet basic land size requirements.

I plan on leaning on your advice, at least to keep me thinking straight...Will you be my mentor...lol

The first thing I would say, before you start looking call the municipalities you are considering and make sure you know what the zoning laws are. Montegue township near Smiths Falls requires 5 acres independent of the house to have any livestock, including a single chicken, so 6 acres to have a chicken. North Grenville you just have to be zoned rural or agricultural.

Make sure the animals you want are not too cute or your wife and daughter will keep you from eating them, ha ha ha.

[Bushmoose]

The first thing I would say, before you start looking call the municipalities you are considering and make sure you know what the zoning laws are. Montegue township near Smiths Falls requires 5 acres independent of the house to have any livestock, including a single chicken, so 6 acres to have a chicken. North Grenville you just have to be zoned rural or agricultural.

Make sure the animals you want are not too cute or your wife and daughter will keep you from eating them, ha ha ha.

And don't name them!

[jaycee]

And don't name them!

we have named ours, steak, chops , roasts etc. !

[line052]

Chickens and Goats...will not be eaten...I have been given the decree...dog food.