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Thread: Misdialed 911 call leads RCMP to home with 100 unsecured guns

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    Quote Originally Posted by be2man View Post
    No one seems to have any problem with the RCMP responding to the call after being told it was unnecessary and then requesting entry to the home, for what reason? He should have told them thanks, but no, have a nice day.
    It’s not that easy with a 911 call. They are duty bound to ensure there are no issues at the residence. Refusing entrance will only cause more suspicion and likely result in a search of the residence.

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    There's a chance this one gets tossed for Charter reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rick_iles View Post
    You would likely fall under sub (2), exception...
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    See, thats some good thinking right there? That's why I hired you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by welsh View Post
    There's a chance this one gets tossed for Charter reasons.

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    Only if he STFU and gets a decent lawyer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by welsh View Post
    There's a chance this one gets tossed for Charter reasons.

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    I doubt it. Especially when he gave them permission to enter. Any guns in plain view that were improperly stored, can be seized, and charges laid. A warrant would be required to search further, unless they can satisfy the court that a further search was needed to make sure no emergencies existed. If not, any guns found after the plain view search would not be admissible. The offences can still be proven with the evidence of the first guns seen.

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    I had a keyed trigger lock on my gun one morning when I got to the blind forgot to bring my key, takes a few seconds to remove with no key.

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    Gee , I guess the guy who forgot his trigger lock keys a couple of years ago at hunt camp should have known that. It took him quite awhile with a wide range of tools. Eventually he drilled it out. It was a Masterlock if anyone wants to know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rick_iles View Post
    I doubt it. Especially when he gave them permission to enter.
    The story I read on this suggested he didn't give them permission. That would change everything as long as they were in pain sight. And with 100 of them I would think at least one would have to be.

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    If the man was home could he not say that they were in plain sight because he was inspecting them for routine maintenance? Safe storage doesn’t mean all firearms must be under lock & key at all times?
    I’m suspicious of people who don't like dogs, but I trust a dog who doesn't like a person.

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    Everyone seems to want to defend the guy. Does no one think what he did was illegal and he should be held to account for it? Why not? As a fellow gun owner, I do not appreciate people found with unsecured guns, let alone a hundred of them. More ammo for the anti's.
    Last edited by fishermccann; August 9th, 2019 at 08:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishermccann View Post
    Everyone seems to want to defend the guy. Does no one think what he did was illegal and he should be held to account for it? Why not? As a fellow gun owner, I do not appreciate people found with unsecured guns, let alone a hundred of them.
    It can be true that what he did was illegal, yet also true that there are Charter concerns with police asserting the power to search purely on the basis of a misdialled 911 call. To me the Charter concern outranks the storage offence.

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