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August 8th, 2019, 07:25 PM
#41

Originally Posted by
be2man
No one seems to have any problem with the RCMP responding to the call after being told it was unnecessary and then requesting entry to the home, for what reason? He should have told them thanks, but no, have a nice day.
It’s not that easy with a 911 call. They are duty bound to ensure there are no issues at the residence. Refusing entrance will only cause more suspicion and likely result in a search of the residence.
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August 8th, 2019 07:25 PM
# ADS
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August 8th, 2019, 07:30 PM
#42
There's a chance this one gets tossed for Charter reasons.
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August 8th, 2019, 07:41 PM
#43

Originally Posted by
rick_iles
You would likely fall under sub (2), exception...
Predator control.....
See, thats some good thinking right there? That's why I hired you?
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August 8th, 2019, 07:42 PM
#44

Originally Posted by
welsh
There's a chance this one gets tossed for Charter reasons.
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Only if he STFU and gets a decent lawyer?
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August 8th, 2019, 07:43 PM
#45

Originally Posted by
welsh
There's a chance this one gets tossed for Charter reasons.
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I doubt it. Especially when he gave them permission to enter. Any guns in plain view that were improperly stored, can be seized, and charges laid. A warrant would be required to search further, unless they can satisfy the court that a further search was needed to make sure no emergencies existed. If not, any guns found after the plain view search would not be admissible. The offences can still be proven with the evidence of the first guns seen.
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August 8th, 2019, 09:14 PM
#46
I had a keyed trigger lock on my gun one morning when I got to the blind forgot to bring my key, takes a few seconds to remove with no key.

Originally Posted by
fishermccann
Gee , I guess the guy who forgot his trigger lock keys a couple of years ago at hunt camp should have known that. It took him quite awhile with a wide range of tools. Eventually he drilled it out. It was a Masterlock if anyone wants to know.
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August 8th, 2019, 09:18 PM
#47

Originally Posted by
rick_iles
I doubt it. Especially when he gave them permission to enter.
The story I read on this suggested he didn't give them permission. That would change everything as long as they were in pain sight. And with 100 of them I would think at least one would have to be. 
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August 8th, 2019, 09:56 PM
#48
If the man was home could he not say that they were in plain sight because he was inspecting them for routine maintenance? Safe storage doesn’t mean all firearms must be under lock & key at all times?
I’m suspicious of people who don't like dogs, but I trust a dog who doesn't like a person.
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August 9th, 2019, 08:28 AM
#49
Everyone seems to want to defend the guy.
Does no one think what he did was illegal and he should be held to account for it? Why not? As a fellow gun owner, I do not appreciate people found with unsecured guns, let alone a hundred of them. More ammo for the anti's.
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August 9th, 2019, 08:40 AM
#50

Originally Posted by
fishermccann
Everyone seems to want to defend the guy.

Does no one think what he did was illegal and he should be held to account for it? Why not? As a fellow gun owner, I do not appreciate people found with unsecured guns, let alone a hundred of them.
It can be true that what he did was illegal, yet also true that there are Charter concerns with police asserting the power to search purely on the basis of a misdialled 911 call. To me the Charter concern outranks the storage offence.
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