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November 11th, 2019, 12:48 PM
#51
Now if they went back in the morning and yotes got it that's a different story but it said they knew where it was found it ,left and never returned. Still equals left the animal to spoil it's all in the wording.
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November 11th, 2019 12:48 PM
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November 11th, 2019, 01:05 PM
#52
I think I would have shot it. If you're worried about the legal aspect of it, then build yourself a campfire and sit with it until first light - assuming your firearm is cased. If it's not, well it's a bit too late to worry about legal issues related to night hunting. As far as the worry about getting caught - if that's the only issue, then carry a few squib loads or a .32 s&w auxiliary cartridge for after dark dispatches. Never used them after dark, but have finished a couple of deer with the .32. If you're going to finish a deer off with a knife, make sure it is a fixed, not a folding blade.
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November 11th, 2019, 02:06 PM
#53
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
fishfood
They weren't looking for it ..
They FOUND it and LEFT IT ...
So it's not a crime to find a wounded animal that you shot then just leave it.
I call bull and it would be totally against the law to leave an wounded animal when its FOUND. You found it wounded then just left it there to never go back would classifie as letting a game animal spoil.
We are not talking about a game animal that is never found. They found it knew where it was and LEFT IT. big differences.
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To find a wounded animal after dark that's not dead and leaving it because you cannot shoot it, is not a criminal offense. Show us where this is written in the criminal code.
Last edited by canadaman30; November 11th, 2019 at 02:17 PM.
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November 11th, 2019, 02:08 PM
#54
To those that don't want to attract attention with firing a shot after dark, what are you doing if it's a bow hunting situation? It's still breaking the law to have an uncased bow/fire after dark? But no one will know... I'll quote John Wooden "The true test of a mans character is what he does when no one is watching"
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November 11th, 2019, 02:20 PM
#55
As I understood it, the guy shot from a tree stand, 18-20 yards, hit the deer from the top of the back and thru to the hip, deer had no strength on left rear side, deer went down but got up and dragged/hobbled itself away. They found the deer alive bedded some 20 minutes later, the deer tried to get up again but could not they debated about shooting it as no one felt it was safe the way the deer could still kick to cut throat, but they knew it was after legal light.
Yes they left it, and specifically said for the yotes. As I asked if they went back in am to see said no point the yotes would of got....
SHOOT IT...I had said yes it is wrong but sometimes we do the wrong things for all the right reasons.
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November 11th, 2019, 02:40 PM
#56

Originally Posted by
canadaman30
To find a wounded animal after dark that's not dead and leaving it because you cannot shoot it, is not a criminal offense. Show us where this is written in the criminal code.
The illegal part was they never returned thereby it was left to rot. Dose not matter if you didnt gut and take it home. They found it and decided to leave it and let it spoil . It was their decision not to go back after it would of expired. They knew there would be a dead deer in the morning but left it for the wild dogs to eat.
100 percent illegal to shoot a deer for the yotes. If you found the deer it is your responsibility to finish the job and take your deer . Its illegal to shoot and leave the deer without taking it . It's called you intentionally left it to spoil.
They shot the deer found the deer and left to never return to again . That my friend is considered letting an animal spoil.
Letting an animal spoil is plain and simple yes you deliberately left to spoil.
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November 11th, 2019, 02:48 PM
#57
It’s definitely an interesting thought exercise. I like the idea someone else had of setting up a camp and waiting for it to expire but then there may be a charge for camping and for having a fire depending where you are.
Personally I couldn’t abandon it outright. If it’s a season where bows are legal (some gun seasons are ONLY guns) then a way to break the law but act ethically while mitigating you’re legal exposure might be to go get a bow and come back and quietly break the law while putting the animal out of it’s pain.
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November 11th, 2019, 02:59 PM
#58
Has too much time on their hands
Leaving a wounded (not dead)animal in the dark is not a criminal offense. If it is a criminal offense then show us where it's written in the criminal code?
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November 11th, 2019, 03:01 PM
#59

Originally Posted by
canadaman30
To find a wounded animal after dark that's not dead and leaving it because you cannot shoot it, is not a criminal offense. Show us where this is written in the criminal code.
This is all F&W act - none of it is under the criminal code. Strangely enough, I looked through the act and can't find anything about abandoning game being illegal. But I'm pretty sure that it is. There is a difference between not finding game and abandoning it. The "abandoning" - that part is illegal - we've all frequently heard about charges being laid for it - but I can't find it in F&W act.
If the law were pursue charges for causing undue suffering to the wounded deer by not killing it, that is under the criminal act and the penalties are severe - including jail time.
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November 11th, 2019, 03:04 PM
#60

Originally Posted by
canadaman30
Leaving a wounded (not dead)animal in the dark is not a criminal offense. If it is a criminal offense then show us where it's written in the criminal code?
445.1 subsection 1 (a) - up to 5 years in jail
"[COLOR=#333333]wilfully causes or, being the owner, wilfully permits to be caused unnecessary pain, suffering or injury to an animal or a bird;'