When do ethics out weigh the law

[fishfood]

Leaving a wounded (not dead)animal in the dark is not a criminal offense. If it is a criminal offense then show us where it's written in the criminal code?

First paragraph posted in the link yesterday. I can not fine the set fine chart I saw yesterday as have no time at the moment.

They intentionally left a deer to spoil after it was hunted.

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[fishfood]

If they were standing with the deer that could not move it was going to die . That being said they left the meat to spoil after it was hunted.
And as said now you have suffering of an animal, witch I also stated so their could be a string fines an offenses done.
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[kk1]

As I understood it, the guy shot from a tree stand, 18-20 yards, hit the deer from the top of the back and thru to the hip, deer had no strength on left rear side, deer went down but got up and dragged/hobbled itself away. They found the deer alive bedded some 20 minutes later, the deer tried to get up again but could not they debated about shooting it as no one felt it was safe the way the deer could still kick to cut throat, but they knew it was after legal light.
Yes they left it, and specifically said for the yotes. As I asked if they went back in am to see said no point the yotes would of got....

SHOOT IT...I had said yes it is wrong but sometimes we do the wrong things for all the right reasons.

These guys are total scumbags. Who could leave an animal in that condition to suffer? Finish the job. You would think multiple guys could come up with some sort of idea on how to put this animal out of its misery. This is just plain sad if its true.

[canadaman30]

First paragraph posted in the link yesterday. I can not fine the set fine chart I saw yesterday as have no time at the moment.

They intentionally left a deer to spoil after it was hunted.

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Those animals were harvested and in the person possession when they spoiled. They were not wounded animals left in the woods at night.....

[canadaman30]

445.1 subsection 1 (a) - up to 5 years in jail

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[COLOR=#333333]wilfully causes or, being the owner, wilfully permits to be caused unnecessary pain, suffering or injury to an animal or a bird;'

Hunting game does not mean a wounding shot was a willful act to purposely cause undue suffering. Animal cruelty is not considered a bad shot in a hunting situation. Tieing up an animal and not caring for it is not the same as a bad shot wounding game while hunting. Leaving a wounded animal in the woods because it's after legal hunting hours is not a criminal offense. What's makes me laugh is how many think it's ok to shoot big game at night, even though it's very illegal to do so.

[Rob Stewart]

This is all F&W act - none of it is under the criminal code. Strangely enough, I looked through the act and can't find anything about abandoning game being illegal. But I'm pretty sure that it is. There is a difference between not finding game and abandoning it. The "abandoning" - that part is illegal - we've all frequently heard about charges being laid for it - but I can't find it in F&W act.

If the law were pursue charges for causing undue suffering to the wounded deer by not killing it, that is under the criminal act and the penalties are severe - including jail time.

Correct it’s F&W however you MIGHT also get a Careless charge if the cops get involved and want to push it.


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[Rob Stewart]

FWIW you could find a 6-10 foot pole and tie or tape a hunting knife to it and dispatch the animal at a safe distance.


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[kk1]

Hunting game does not mean a wounding shot was a willful act to purposely cause undue suffering. Animal cruelty is not considered a bad shot in a hunting situation. Tieing up an animal and not caring for it is not the same as a bad shot wounding game while hunting. Leaving a wounded animal in the woods because it's after legal hunting hours is not a criminal offense. What's makes me laugh is how many think it's ok to shoot big game at night, even though it's very illegal to do so.

Real funny to have conscience! If you screw up a shot do all you can to finish the job! You owe it to the animal!

[fishfood]

Those animals were harvested and in the person possession when they spoiled. They were not wounded animals left in the woods at night.....

Same rules apply I the woods. You cant just leave your deer in the wood that you found still alive. Then just say hey its after dark and I have no way to fully expire this animal . That you are fully aware that will die later and you just leave and forget about it.

That is your deer that you shot and found, but hey it's still breathing maybe tomorrow we can shoot another one.

So I can shoot a deer and find out it's to big for me to carry and I decided to leave it ??? That's ok then I didn't gut it was about to expire in maybe another 20 minutes.. But wait a minute it's to big and before it expires after dark its ok to leave it behind and spoil?? It was to big I didnt know how I was going to get it out the woods. But I guess that's ok no you would be charged for letting your meat or furr go to waste. It wasn't quite dead yet but I left maybe I will get the next deer.

All the same crap they left it to spoil doesn't matter if it's in the back woods or at under your shed when its plus 20 out. They were standing beside it and left it was not a animal they could not track .

This doesn't just apply for deer. But for all game furr barring animal. Either trapping hunting or poaching it's all the same

He shot a deer it was still alive but knew it was going to die. This is his deer and when he left it, he left his deer their to die and to spoil. What part dont you get you will get charged for letting your game spoil. That's his deer he found and left it to spoil plain and simple.

I cant just go catch a few whitties every day and throw them out back . I could be charged for that.



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[canadaman30]

Fish food how is it you seem to know all the details of this case when you weren't even there. You put alot of speculation into an incident you were not even involved in. By all means shoot or spear your big game at night if your not capable of doing it during daylight hours sounds reasonable. I'm sure your local CO will be totally understanding when meets you at your vehicle in the dark...lol