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November 23rd, 2019, 04:23 PM
#111

Originally Posted by
Gilroy
You can "cherry pick" all you want with how much damage each political party has done to your "privilege" of owning a handgun but to attack the Liberals all the time is just not right. We have a very eminent expert on here with respect to this topic and I am sure would be happy to answer any of your questions on the history of gun control in Canada.
Because it is the liberals that's going to take them away. Cheers [emoji8] at the present moment it is the liberals ,who's going to waste the money take the guns away that mean nothing in the end . Crime will still go on the shootings will continue to happen and gosht guns will be the new era. I will stop picking on them for you tho. I will defend the guns as it not the right solution to ban them.
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November 23rd, 2019 04:23 PM
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November 23rd, 2019, 04:26 PM
#112

Originally Posted by
trimmer21
20% or 30%? Really? That would be a Liberal wet dream. How about ZERO%? No way,no how,will any gun ban affect the criminal element simply because they ignore laws. That's why they're criminals. Geezus H.Kryst,rocket science it ain't.
I know of a retired Police Superintendent from Kingston,Jamaica, who with a hand picked group of serving officers could be seconded here for a few months and they would get the homicide rate down to 0%. Unfortunately we would have to give them immunity for how they would deal with the problem and that ain,t gonna happen.I am sure just the mention of TRINITY would have the the gang bangers handing in their guns at the nearest division.
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November 23rd, 2019, 04:36 PM
#113

Originally Posted by
fishfood
Because it is the liberals that's going to take them away. Cheers [emoji8] at the present moment it is the liberals ,who's going to waste the money take the guns away that mean nothing in the end . Crime will still go on the shootings will continue to happen and gosht guns will be the new era. I will stop picking on them for you tho. I will defend the guns as it not the right solution to ban them.
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The Liberals did not take away guns when they had 11 years of back to back majority governments, how come? If they wanted to ban anything they could have.
If we have another Danforth type mass shooting the Liberals backed by the NDP and Greens will indeed bring in some more legislation as they will be acting for the vast majority of Canadians.The Conservatives will mumble back and forth but in the end support it by doing nothing.Just like Harper did nothing in relation to this thread matter.
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November 23rd, 2019, 04:55 PM
#114
Sometimes things happen gilroy innocent people sometimes will be effected. When the guns are banned ,there will still be innocent victims taken . Sad but true
It's the doctors that really pushing lately they are tired of blood shed .
And yes eventually their will be another innocent person taken . Probably way to early and never even see it coming With or without a gun. Life is sometimes not fair but we have to live with it ,a big part of life .
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Last edited by fishfood; November 23rd, 2019 at 05:02 PM.
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November 23rd, 2019, 05:18 PM
#115

Originally Posted by
fishfood
Sometimes things happen gilroy innocent people sometimes will be effected. When the guns are banned ,there will still be innocent victims taken . Sad but true
It's the doctors that really pushing lately they are tired of blood shed .
And yes eventually their will be another innocent person taken . Probably way to early and never even see it coming With or without a gun. Life is sometimes not fair but we have to live with it ,a big part of life .
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I guess if you were a doctor you might get fed up patching up gang bangers and sometimes innocent bye standers who are collateral damage.Maybe you would want to be operating on that car accident victim instead but cannot because another person just got shot. Politicians have a duty imposed on them to keep us safe and I believe we hunters should assist them by keeping our guns safe from theft,requesting access to guns we need to hunt and not going over board with our support for every weekend warrior who feels the need to have an Ar 15 with a banana clip on his shoulder.
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November 23rd, 2019, 05:35 PM
#116

Originally Posted by
Gilroy
I guess if you were a doctor you might get fed up patching up gang bangers and sometimes innocent bye standers who are collateral damage.Maybe you would want to be operating on that car accident victim instead but cannot because another person just got shot. Politicians have a duty imposed on them to keep us safe and I believe we hunters should assist them by keeping our guns safe from theft,requesting access to guns we need to hunt and not going over board with our support for every weekend warrior who feels the need to have an Ar 15 with a banana clip on his shoulder.
That's what I'm trying to say even with a gun ban doctors will still be doing the same thing. You even say it will not really help much to ban them as the shootings will continue. Yes it will save a few but its all political lies if they think it will drastically change any. Many know the truth of what's happening and many dont have a clue what's going on the streets. So many dont even have a clue what's happening besides what they see on the news. For the doctors thinking that it will change has something coming to them.
So in the end when a ban solves little the people will loose faith in that particular riding lol. [emoji39][emoji2958] .
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Last edited by fishfood; November 23rd, 2019 at 05:50 PM.
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November 23rd, 2019, 06:00 PM
#117
Ps.
People are lazor printing and making AR 15s in people's basement as we speak lol. . [emoji850]
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November 23rd, 2019, 06:39 PM
#118
Just chiming in here on that last comment. I don't think people realize how easy it is to make guns if you are so inclined... Complex shop/machining equipment is getting more and more affordable as technology advances.
Also illegal guns sell for way more than legal guns so the incentive is there. If they arent getting stolen from legal gun owners they will either be smuggled in from the states or manufactured illegally and distributed from there.
Make whatever gun laws you want criminals will always have guns.
Whats going to do more would be cracking down harder on illegal gun owners...
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November 23rd, 2019, 06:48 PM
#119

Originally Posted by
nick613
Just chiming in here on that last comment. I don't think people realize how easy it is to make guns if you are so inclined... Complex shop/machining equipment is getting more and more affordable as technology advances.
Also illegal guns sell for way more than legal guns so the incentive is there. If they arent getting stolen from legal gun owners they will either be smuggled in from the states or manufactured illegally and distributed from there.
Make whatever gun laws you want criminals will always have guns.
Whats going to do more would be cracking down harder on illegal gun owners...
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And that is exactly where the market is going to go. The demands will still be there ,they will just need a few new sources to keep the market open. Those black market sources are already here in Canada so banning them will mean nothing.
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November 24th, 2019, 05:45 AM
#120

Originally Posted by
Gilroy
You can "cherry pick" all you want with how much damage each political party has done to your "privilege" of owning a handgun but to attack the Liberals all the time is just not right. We have a very eminent expert on here with respect to this topic and I am sure would be happy to answer any of your questions on the history of gun control in Canada.
Very true! Theres been a long history of gun control. Unfortunately the erosion has almost decimated the usages of guns. We may not see it in our lifetimes but be assured the ultimate goal is total disarmament. Nibble, nibble here and there until they are totally gone. Its the left against the right. We won’t be able to stop it. Once again it’s a scenario of one group of individuals rights or privileges being more important than our rights and privileges and we pay the price.
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