Is this normal?

[johnjyb]

Shoot it,dress it,notch the tag,skin it,take to butcher,zip tie notched tag to hind quarter through hocks. What is the issue and why is this so confusing? FFS!!

Just to add to the nitpicking, I would say notch the tag before dressing the deer, just in case you get a CO with a burr under his bonnet.
John

[rick_iles]

Shoot it,dress it,notch the tag,skin it,take to butcher,zip tie notched tag to hind quarter through hocks. What is the issue and why is this so confusing? FFS!!

That’s fine if it’s a moose. Deer are to be tagged on a horn or ear. Some guys here were charged because they tagged their deer on the hocks....

[oaknut]

Having something so simple cause such a ruckus of a thread leaves me to wonder. Is half this group skirting the law and always under watch by a CO? I have never seen so much worry about something so simple. A CO would have to be out for your blood specifically to split hairs and lay a charge for a clearly tagged animal.

No CO in Ontario is going to expect someone who is at a rural camp but living in a city to take the head to the city and dispose of it there when it can be left in the woods. Unless you are trying to skirt a law, hide something or have been caught for doing things wrong before you will be fine .

Simplest way about it would be to skin and quarter the animal, you can then transport with just the tag information. Once the animal is quartered and in transit all that is required is the tag information and this is all that the butcher should require too.

From the regs; Note: If you are transporting a portion of
a carcass that does not have a tag (e.g.,
the animal was divided or quartered at your
hunt camp prior to final transport), you
must be prepared to provide information
about the tag holder (e.g., name, Outdoors
Card number, licence number) and details
of the hunt (e.g., date and location of kill)
if requested by a conservation officer. Refer
to the General Regulations section for
additional requirements if you are shipping
or transporting wildlife in containers.

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[js4fn]

Having something so simple cause such a ruckus of a thread leaves me to wonder. Is half this group skirting the law and always under watch by a CO? I have never seen so much worry about something so simple. A CO would have to be out for your blood specifically to split hairs and lay a charge for a clearly tagged animal.

No CO in Ontario is going to expect someone who is at a rural camp but living in a city to take the head to the city and dispose of it there when it can be left in the woods. Unless you are trying to skirt a law, hide something or have been caught for doing things wrong before you will be fine .

Simplest way about it would be to skin and quarter the animal, you can then transport with just the tag information. Once the animal is quartered and in transit all that is required is the tag information and this is all that the butcher should require too.

From the regs; Note: If you are transporting a portion of
a carcass that does not have a tag (e.g.,
the animal was divided or quartered at your
hunt camp prior to final transport), you
must be prepared to provide information
about the tag holder (e.g., name, Outdoors
Card number, licence number) and details
of the hunt (e.g., date and location of kill)
if requested by a conservation officer. Refer
to the General Regulations section for
additional requirements if you are shipping
or transporting wildlife in containers.

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Seriously their not out for blood their after money they need to file charges to prove their needed. And let judge decide. Never see how many of their charges get overturned

[oaknut]

Seriously their not out for blood their after money they need to file charges to prove their needed. And let judge decide. Never see how many of their charges get overturned

That's as far from the truth as I can see it getting. They are there because they are needed, story after story of trespassing, poaching and douchebags that care only about themselves proves that. I have never been charged. I don't know of anyone being charged for doing everything right.i have had some officers say some stupid crap over the years and ask questions they had no business asking but I have never had an issue with any of them.

CO's are there and have a job to do, if you think you are going to screw around with them you can expect to fall under scrutiny.

Wildlife charges being overturned?!? How about all the charges the police lay where people get off with a slap on the wee wee, there's a whole other thread on that.

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[Gilroy]

I’m not confused at all !
The next time you are at your butchers, take a look in his cooler, and let me know how many deer are hung in there with heads on and tags affixed, as you believe is the law....

Where did I say that was the case,please point out my post to that effect?

[Gilroy]

Well actually, Gilroy maintains you have to keep the tag affixed until it is actually processed....which means you would have to ensure the butcher keeps the head on, while it’s in his cooler, waiting to be cut.....freezer... has never been mentioned.
i guess common sense isn’t so common anymore !!

Gilroy did not say a single word about a tag being on a deer at all.What I did say was that the tag must be with the deer.

So again I will make it very simple for you and talk SLOWLY. This year I shot a deer,the tag was validated at the kill site and placed in my jacket pocket.The deer was transported right away to the butchers,the butcher immediately took the deer from my van right onto his meat hanger and started the processing right away by cutting the back straps out for me to take back to camp.The tag went right into the box with the others and a corresponding label was made out for the butcher to keep track of my box.My tag never went onto the deer at all because it was into processing right away and it would be redundant to tag it.

[Gilroy]

Shoot it,dress it,notch the tag,skin it,take to butcher,zip tie notched tag to hind quarter through hocks. What is the issue and why is this so confusing? FFS!!

I might stand corrected on this Brother but I think the tag to the hind quarters is out this past year.From memory I believe its the ear or antler.

Now I have a bone of contention with this and previously wrote about it on this forum.I do not believe any where in the summary do they give the specific instructions on where to tag the animals,they make a big fuss about telling us there are NEW TAGGING requirements without actually giving them.The only place you see the specifics about where to place the tag on an animal is on the tag you have in your hand.I believe even the summary sheet refers you back to the tag itself.Of course all three main species Moose,Bear and Deer have to be different.

As I say I do not have my deer tag to refer to as I used it so if you can dig up a copy and read it I believe its the ear or antler this year.

LOL I am sure if I am wrong I will be IMMEDIATELY corrected on this forum.

[trimmer21]

Just to add to the nitpicking, I would say notch the tag before dressing the deer, just in case you get a CO with a burr under his bonnet.
John

Yep. I edited the post to reverse the two. The tag MUST be notched at the kill site before all processing.

That’s fine if it’s a moose. Deer are to be tagged on a horn or ear. Some guys here were charged because they tagged their deer on the hocks....

Under the old system,that's true,but not under the new regs. That would be kind of difficult if the head was already detached for the butcher. We have the option of still simply carrying the notched tag with us while carrying the carcass or zip tie the tag through a hock without committing an offense. What the butcher's system is doesn't much matter once it's hanging in the cooler.

[rick_iles]

Yep. I edited the post to reverse the two. The tag MUST be notched at the kill site before all processing.



Under the old system,that's true,but not under the new regs. That would be kind of difficult if the head was already detached for the butcher. We have the option of still simply carrying the notched tag with us while carrying the carcass or zip tie the tag through a hock without committing an offense. What the butcher's system is doesn't much matter once it's hanging in the cooler.

You better check on that..... moose yes, deer.. horn or ear...the reg. Says you have to tag as described on the issued tag......I recall getting a moose tag one year, with instructions on how to tag a deer.....no mention of moose. They obviously printed the tag in the wrong paper...