Is this normal?

[rick_iles]

1) Instructions have not changed, they are actually written on the tag
2) The location for deer has not changed, it was always on the head, either the antler or the ear
3) These paper tags are no different than protecting your cell phone or any other piece of electronics, 2 ziplock bags generally does it with no problem, 1 you can then attach to the animal if needed
4) The butcher does not have to go along with anything, the onus is on the hunter to keep the tag on the animal until it gets to the butcher for processing, nothing says that the butcher needs to have it on there, just that it has to be on there until it gets to the place where it is processed
5) How does this change anything for poachers? You still have to notch the tag immediately and have it with the animal. If a deer is being pulled out of the bush on Wednesday and the tag is notched on Monday that would have some interesting explaining to do

It is a new system, I guess it is really hard to teach an old dog a new trick but honestly, if you can figure out how to get on here on the forum and complain then you should be able to figure out how to keep your tag dry.

Actually , your #4 has changed. I do not need my tag affixed to my deer when I’m taking my deer to the butcher...here we go again !!!!

[MikePal]

1) Instructions have not changed, they are actually written on the tag
2) The location for deer has not changed, it was always on the head, either the antler or the ear
3) These paper tags are no different than protecting your cell phone or any other piece of electronics, 2 ziplock bags generally does it with no problem, 1 you can then attach to the animal if needed
4) The butcher does not have to go along with anything, the onus is on the hunter to keep the tag on the animal until it gets to the butcher for processing, nothing says that the butcher needs to have it on there, just that it has to be on there until it gets to the place where it is processed
5) How does this change anything for poachers? You still have to notch the tag immediately and have it with the animal. If a deer is being pulled out of the bush on Wednesday and the tag is notched on Monday that would have some interesting explaining to do

It is a new system, I guess it is really hard to teach an old dog a new trick but honestly, if you can figure out how to get on here on the forum and complain then you should be able to figure out how to keep your tag dry.

Absolutely.....

[MikePal]

Actually , your #4 has changed. I do not need my tag affixed to my deer when I’m taking my deer to the butcher...here we go again !!!!

If it's your deer correct.

If someone else is taking it in, before it's skinned..tag will be on the head...

Otherwise, once skinned, just Just keep the head(s) with the carcass(s) until you drop it off...

No legal requirement for you to give or the butcher to ask for any of your MNR information. He has NO authority to be in possession of your Outdoor card number..

[onelessarrow]

This thread is like watching 5 minutes of CNN, where self proclaimed experts tell you what your lying eyes are actually seeing.
The new regulation word for word. "the tag holder MUST attach the tag if he/she leaves the harvested animal at any time, including, leaving the animal at a butcher for
processing."
Please help us all understand how this NEW requirement, even though its clearly written in plain english, somehow means nothing in practical terms.

[rick_iles]

If it's your deer correct.

If someone else is taking it in, before it's skinned..tag will be on the head...

Otherwise, once skinned, just Just keep the head(s) with the carcass(s) until you drop it off...

No legal requirement for you to give or the butcher to ask for any of your MNR information. He has NO authority to be in possession of your Outdoor card number..

Interpret this new section for us Mike .....

20 (1)(c) - O.Reg 665/98

Skin, cut or pack carcass in a manner contrary to instructions accompanying tag

Set Fine: $200.00

Total Payable: $240.00

A licensed hunter who kills a wildlife species under the authority of a tag shall ensure that the carcass is not skinned, cut or packed,

(a) in such a manner that the species cannot be easily identified;

(b) if the tag specifies the type of species or the age or sex of the animal that may be hunted and killed, in such a manner that the type, age or sex of the animal cannot be easily identified; or

(c) in a manner that is contrary to the instructions that accompany the tag.

[rick_iles]

[QUOTE=onelessarrow;1100046]This thread is like watching 5 minutes of CNN, where self proclaimed experts tell you what your lying eyes are actually seeing.
The new regulation word for word. "the tag holder MUST attach the tag if he/she leaves the harvested animal at any time, including, leaving the animal at a butcher for
processing."
Please help us all understand how this NEW requirement, even though its clearly written in plain english, somehow means nothing in practical terms.[/QUOTE

That is not what the regulation says.....it’s what the Summary says. COs interpret the actual regs not the Summary.....

[onelessarrow]

Interpret this new section for us Mike .....

20 (1)(c) - O.Reg 665/98

Skin, cut or pack carcass in a manner contrary to instructions accompanying tag

Set Fine: $200.00

Total Payable: $240.00

A licensed hunter who kills a wildlife species under the authority of a tag shall ensure that the carcass is not skinned, cut or packed,

(a) in such a manner that the species cannot be easily identified;

(b) if the tag specifies the type of species or the age or sex of the animal that may be hunted and killed, in such a manner that the type, age or sex of the animal cannot be easily identified; or

(c) in a manner that is contrary to the instructions that accompany the tag.

Its the long version of "follow your damn tag instructions or your getting a fine,"
In this case, the new instructions on the tag to "keep head WITH carcass" is new, despite Fox claiming the tag instructions haven't changed or you claiming the head must be attached to the carcass earlier in this thread.

[rick_iles]

Its the long version of "follow your damn tag instructions or your getting a fine,"
In this case, the new instructions on the tag to "keep head WITH carcass" is new, despite Fox claiming the tag instructions haven't changed or you claiming the head must be attached to the carcass earlier in this thread.

Im telling you there have been charges laid for doing that exact thing....conduct yourself accordingly!

[Matt86]

what if your back backing the animal out a long ways or flying out?
yet to see a bull moose head come out on a plane I have been on, lots of skinned quarters where the dicks still attached to the quarter

[cantgetright]

We take game meat, moose and deer to a processor near Goderich, for snack sticks and summer sausage. They do a huge amount of wild game meat of all kinds, so it’s a big operation. We have to call to make an appointment to bring our meat in, they are so busy. They take down our outdoors card number, name address etc., they don’t ask about tags though. There should be no reason for the tag....
We use Atwood Heritage meats......I highly recommend them if in your area.

We've been using Atwood for years as well but haven't been asked for anything. Maybe because the guy that takes it down knows them as he takes all his beef there to.