What if You Were Warden?: Investigating Deer Hunters

[FishHog]

Like I said it’s a good question for a co but I suspect it’s up to the individual to decide. You guys feel it’s clear but I don’t. No where can I find that you can’t deer hunt and bird hunt at the same time. And I can deer hunt with slugs and bird hunt with shot. I really don’t believe anyone would accuse me of deer hunting with 7.5 shot

[trimmer21]

Like I said it’s a good question for a co but I suspect it’s up to the individual to decide. You guys feel it’s clear but I don’t. No where can I find that you can’t deer hunt and bird hunt at the same time. And I can deer hunt with slugs and bird hunt with shot. I really don’t believe anyone would accuse me of deer hunting with 7.5 shot

You're quite correct that we can bird hunt and Deer hunt at the same time (as long as we have a valid Deer license). The OP's video cited New Hampshire,specifically. Their F&G laws are different from ours here in Ontario. We're allowed to party hit even after filling a tag. In NH,it's not legal to party hunt. One of the posters raised the subject of illegal shot size for big game hunting which added to the confusion. That subject may have been better handled in another thread.

[jaycee]

Sam,this is pretty clear to me.
If You read the posts, you will see my post is now on" Ontario what if" and the side by side or over under.
Even there i put the"you will be likely" ok note.................

I think the rest(over there and semi shotgun with mixed ammo) is clear ,to most.


However ,for O/U or SS,i still think the area can be grey,and the CO would likely need to decide.
Why - i think reasoning of selective fire capability have merits.Providing-we are not debating that aspect-the person has applicable licences.
Combination guns(with different projectile in each barrel)while not very common,they are legal and viable" tools of the trade",used following all applicable rules and regulations.
Yet same scenario applies to them as well.

I am otherwise impartial not owning any of the above guns........

Not all S/S or O/U shotguns have selective fire capabilities, and most used for hunting purposes are choked full and modified and neither of those chokes will shot slugs accurately, slugs shoot best out of cyl. bore barrels.
So this kind of throws a monkey wrench into your argument.

[bdog]

Not all S/S or O/U shotguns have selective fire capabilities, and most used for hunting purposes are choked full and modified and neither of those chokes will shot slugs accurately, slugs shoot best out of cyl. bore barrels.
So this kind of throws a monkey wrench into your argument.

Sorry, but, shooting slugs thru smooth bores, you never know how it will shoot until you try it with the proper slugs, and most modern double barrels used for hunting are not choked full n mod, and if the double barrel does not have selective triggers, and different choked barrels, you load accordingly...

[gbk]

Not all S/S or O/U shotguns have selective fire capabilities, and most used for hunting purposes are choked full and modified and neither of those chokes will shot slugs accurately, slugs shoot best out of cyl. bore barrels.
So this kind of throws a monkey wrench into your argument.

As far i know either you have selective trigger capability,or double trigger.Which gives the option to the user.But i can be wrong.
As far as accurately shooting slugs from mod.choke-well i did that when i was hunting deer way back with a pump action shotgun,and harvested more then one deer.Actually once a buddy of mine was questioning me about why i use mod.choke for slugs-and honestly i just did not know any better.
Maybe my shotgun was not aware of the issue either
Anyway -Happy New Year to all!

[jaycee]

As far i know either you have selective trigger capability,or double trigger.Which gives the option to the user.But i can be wrong.
As far as accurately shooting slugs from mod.choke-well i did that when i was hunting deer way back with a pump action shotgun,and harvested more then one deer.Actually once a buddy of mine was questioning me about why i use mod.choke for slugs-and honestly i just did not know any better.
Maybe my shotgun was not aware of the issue either
Anyway -Happy New Year to all!

There are many sxs o/u Shotguns out there that have only one trigger and are not selective.
Going around to all the Gun Shows , the guns I see are mainly choked Full and Mod. If you find one that has less /more open chocks, they are highly desirable.
Most newer guns come equipped with choke tubes now days and do have selective triggers or double triggers.
Happy New Year!

[Sam Menard]

It doesn’t matter if you have selective trigger capability, you can’t have bird shot in your shotgun while hunting big game.

[FishHog]

It doesn’t matter if you have selective trigger capability, you can’t have bird shot in your shotgun while hunting big game.

Says who? Might be how you interpret it but I don’t agree. I think you can if you’re hunting birds and deer at the same time. I sometimes carry a pellet pistol for birds while deer hunting. I can’t deer hunt with a pellet pistol but I’ve shown it to a co and he had no issues with it

But since you said it so factually you must have something to back that up. I don’t know the answer for sure so would like to know your source as you seem to

[Sam Menard]

Says who? Might be how you interpret it but I don’t agree. I think you can if you’re hunting birds and deer at the same time. I sometimes carry a pellet pistol for birds while deer hunting. I can’t deer hunt with a pellet pistol but I’ve shown it to a co and he had no issues with it

But since you said it so factually you must have something to back that up. I don’t know the answer for sure so would like to know your source as you seem to

The point that I was trying to make is that, if you are using a shotgun to hunt big game, you cannot have slugs/buckshot and birdshot loaded or in the magazine at the same time. You can, however, hunt big game with additional firearms at the same time, thereby allowing you to hunt big game and small game at the same time. You can also hunt big game and small game with the same shotgun provided that you don't have a combination of slug/buckshot and bird shot loaded or in the magazine at the same time. For example, let's say you are hunting small game with a pump shot gun loaded with #4 shot. Furthermore, let's assume that bear season is open and you have a valid licence so you want to carry some slugs in case Yogi happens to present himself. The law says that you can't have both types of shot in your shotgun at the same time. You can have one or the other in your gun but not both.

[jaycee]

The point that I was trying to make is that, if you are using a shotgun to hunt big game, you cannot have slugs/buckshot and birdshot loaded or in the magazine at the same time. You can, however, hunt big game with additional firearms at the same time, thereby allowing you to hunt big game and small game at the same time. You can also hunt big game and small game with the same shotgun provided that you don't have a combination of slug/buckshot and bird shot loaded or in the magazine at the same time. For example, let's say you are hunting small game with a pump shot gun loaded with #4 shot. Furthermore, let's assume that bear season is open and you have a valid licence so you want to carry some slugs in case Yogi happens to present himself. The law says that you can't have both types of shot in your shotgun at the same time. You can have one or the other in your gun but not both.

Pls. Quote the actual law , to clarify this .