Third Party Wild Game Spoilage - Legality

[Snowwalker]

There was a proposal to change that in the MBCA, but I haven’t heard of any outcome yet.

Like I said, it is a weird thing. Every place I have hunted has laws against it.

Chalk up another "Mismanagement" point for Ontario.

[sawbill]

It's not just Ontaio. Mbca is federal jurisdiction and probably the one main reason why it takes forever to initiate changes. Gotta please 10 provinces and the territories when you can't get one province to see eye to eye with itself.

[Snowwalker]

It's not just Ontaio. Mbca is federal jurisdiction and probably the one main reason why it takes forever to initiate changes. Gotta please 10 provinces and the territories when you can't get one province to see eye to eye with itself.

I was talking about laws at the state or Provincial level against allowing game to spoil. The State or Provincial laws include Migratory birds in their laws that prohibit allowing "Game" to spoil.

The regulations normally say something like with the Exception of Varmints, no animal fit for human consumption can be allowed to spoil.

I am surprised Ontario's laws did not extend to Migratory like other places.

[trapper]

As for holes in pelts a while ago the fur buyers complained that sewing up holes came apart in the tanning. I guess they would not bid on damaged goods.Ive retired after 69 yrs trapping and the way the trade is going i dont think i will miss any thing money wise.

[trimmer21]

As for holes in pelts a while ago the fur buyers complained that sewing up holes came apart in the tanning. I guess they would not bid on damaged goods.Ive retired after 69 yrs trapping and the way the trade is going i dont think i will miss any thing money wise.

That's been my information,also. In fact,I remember receiving a letter some time ago from a clearing house clerk advising not to send damaged pelts (ie: sew holes or slippage) due to the glut of pelts in the clearing house that weren't selling (commercial buyers won't touch them) and needed to be "held over" for following auctions. Dealing with them was a waste of their time and they won't buy them. If I can find the letter,I'll be glad to post it.

[Snowwalker]

That's been my information,also. In fact,I remember receiving a letter some time ago from a clearing house clerk advising not to send damaged pelts (ie: sew holes or slippage) due to the glut of pelts in the clearing house that weren't selling (commercial buyers won't touch them) and needed to be "held over" for following auctions. Dealing with them was a waste of their time and they won't buy them. If I can find the letter,I'll be glad to post it.

I wonder if the letter would have any weight in the court if you got charged. It would seem clear that any pelt that was basically not perfect is of no value.

One of the reason I have held off doing any coyote hunting is that, I don't have the tools needed to process it properly.

If the weather would stay below freezing I could keep them till I had time to take them to someone that does. I don't mind donating to someone.

Yes I could pick up a used freezer, but there are more important uses for money right now.

[trimmer21]

I wonder if the letter would have any weight in the court if you got charged. It would seem clear that any pelt that was basically not perfect is of no value.

One of the reason I have held off doing any coyote hunting is that, I don't have the tools needed to process it properly.

If the weather would stay below freezing I could keep them till I had time to take them to someone that does. I don't mind donating to someone.

Yes I could pick up a used freezer, but there are more important uses for money right now.

That's a really good question,but,somehow,I doubt a letter from some clerk would carry much weight. I'm not sure what evidence would need to be presented to defend a charge. I know of an incident in Peterborough County provincial offenses court where a CO had laid a charge. The hunter refused to plead guilty and elected to go to trial. The CO had to keep the hide frozen in it's original state for six months,thaw it before court and produce it as evidence on the hottest day of the summer. It stunk up the entire court room sitting there in a green garbage so bad that the JP tossed the charge and ordered a recess to air out the court. It was hilarious.

[Gun Nut]

Yes, now you got it !! Lol
At one time, it still may be the case, migratory birds killed authorized by Permits, had to be left to rot. Now that doesn’t make sense to me...

I believe it still maybe the case, if the birds are killed out of season because of crop damage, they are to be left where they fall as a warning to other birds that might attempt to feed in the same area causing additional crop damage. That would seem to imply if you attempt to harvest them you are in fact hunting out of season, which I guess would be viewed as poaching.

You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

[trimmer21]

I'm just going to throw this out there,but,unless a pelt is garbage,it only takes about 10 minutes to hang a carcass from a tree branch,peel the pelt off and drag the skinned carcass out of sight.

[redd foxx]

I'm just going to throw this out there,but,unless a pelt is garbage,it only takes about 10 minutes to hang a carcass from a tree branch,peel the pelt off and drag the skinned carcass out of sight.

Agreed!! Why not process the pelt, send it off and let the fur warehouse determine whether it's of value or not?