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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt86 View Post
    any long range video like gunwerks has is a advertisment, same as any hunting show period. They show the best situation in the product they use to sell more of them which then pays for the show,
    Hunting outwest for big game you talk to the guides and they laugh at a lot of these long range shows cause they don't show the misses and the cripples which would be bad for business. One guide told me a shooter missed 7 times before hitting a elk, Guess what when he watched himself guiding the hunter on tv the 7 missses got edited out for some reason and it was a one shot kill. Weird how that would happen not showing the truth.
    How often do you think an animal is going to stay still after shooting at it 7 times?...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by GW11 View Post
    . Contrary to some popular beliefs, aside from brain/high neck shots, there is no magical "stone dead" x-ring to hit on an animal's shoulder. Full stop. We went through this with Blackwolf already.
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    It's important to note that different terrain requires different hunting strategies.

    A forest hunter vs a mountain hunter vs a savannah hunter vs a deep sea diver are each going to have differing techniques for harvesting an animal.
    One could argue that an ethical shot from a long distance rifle is more benign than traipsing through the woods scaring an animal with your scent.
    One could also argue that using a tree stand is an unfair advantage.
    One could say that unless you're in the water with a harpoon in your hand, you're not on the same playing field as your catch.

    How close do you have to be to an animal to fully comprehend the gravitas of taking its life, and to deserve the rewards left behind?

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    Quote Originally Posted by canadaman30 View Post
    Those guys are shooting 80lb deer with a 243 and 308 so they have plenty of energy.

    Yes, hitting the brachial plexus will knock down a deer and anchor it there, is it instant death, no. Is it ethical, for sure.

    As for the "fake video", nobody said it was fake. I did say it was edited just to show the cream.

    Much like a Ram commercial, they will show that truck barreling through mud and snow with ease but what they don't show is the week in the repair shop after! Hahahaha, shots fired!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oaknut View Post
    Yes, hitting the brachial plexus will knock down a deer and anchor it there, is it instant death, no. Is it ethical, for sure.
    Ethical is dependent on the person, that is all.

    Some would say that anchoring the animal is not ethical if it does not kill the animal quickly. Depending on where the shoulder is hit you may just drop the deer and not have it die right away, would that be more ethical than a heart shot deer running full bore for 5 seconds?

    It is a question that has to be asked by the individual hunter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikePal View Post

    I have a 500 yd range on my property and it's open year round. I've offered it to guys who say they can shoot long range. I get a lot of excuses and they never show up.
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    You told me we could make it 500 but have to move a wagon to get enough height :P

    I am up for it, not in this cold but once thing warm up, you wife can watch the kid
    I'm in too. I'd love to try shooting at that distance. Hopefully I have enough adjustment in my scopes though.

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    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...UMDX-piJvkfJKE

    And here's your 1000 yard elk from your video. Magically after shot number 2 and a couple of minutes the SD card just happened to run out. Imagine that, a trained video crew, seems like perfect timing.

    Apologies for inability to embed this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oaknut View Post
    Those guys are shooting 80lb deer with a 243 and 308 so they have plenty of energy.

    Yes, hitting the brachial plexus will knock down a deer and anchor it there, is it instant death, no. Is it ethical, for sure.

    As for the "fake video", nobody said it was fake. I did say it was edited just to show the cream.

    Much like a Ram commercial, they will show that truck barreling through mud and snow with ease but what they don't show is the week in the repair shop after! Hahahaha, shots fired!

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    You do understand when you shoot through the brachial plexus and break the spine the cns shuts down and that's it lights out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rf2 View Post
    I'm in too. I'd love to try shooting at that distance. Hopefully I have enough adjustment in my scopes though.
    500 yards should not be a problem at all, may not be able to adjust to that but you can hold over for sure with any high powered rifle.

    I know a guy who shoots long range 22LR competition, they have adjustable rails for those rifles, 300 yards or so with that tiny little thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canadaman30 View Post
    You do understand when you shoot through the brachial plexus and break the spine the cns shuts down and that's it lights out.
    If you do all of those things, if.

    If you hit the spine, if you hit the brain, if, if, if.

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