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    The mayor's want answers
    Shooting at the police grants bail. Most cases are granted bail unless it is a serious crime involving murder. But then again if you got money there is no chance.




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    This pretty much sums it up.

    There would be no need for a ban.

    The boarder will be the toughest to crack down on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishfood View Post
    This pretty much sums it up.

    There would be no need for a ban.

    The boarder will be the toughest to crack down on.

    https://youtu.be/Quf1SgCerE0

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    All sounds pretty easy but if it was it would have been done already.Bad guys get out on bail and this has been going on for decades.Why,you are presumed innocent until proven guilty,so you cannot keep a suspect in jail on an unfounded allegation.
    The Crown has the duty to SHOW CAUSE why an accused should be denied bail.If the investigating officer has not done his/her homework the bail will be granted.
    Trying to stop and check every person at the border is not going to happen.
    A bail enforcement unit is great but Mr Lilley makes a fool of himself when he states a knock on the door of a bailed person results in an arrest because he is not there.You will not be arresting a suspect who is not there.
    The pleading down of gun charges cannot take place without the consent of the Crown attorney.IF they have a strong case the charges should not be plead down.You then have to ask why they do not have a strong case.Rookie investigator,firearm not being tested and proven to be a firearm (happens all the time).Proving possession is difficult and then the grounds for a stop even more difficult........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilroy View Post
    All sounds pretty easy but if it was it would have been done already.Bad guys get out on bail and this has been going on for decades.Why,you are presumed innocent until proven guilty,so you cannot keep a suspect in jail on an unfounded allegation.
    The Crown has the duty to SHOW CAUSE why an accused should be denied bail.If the investigating officer has not done his/her homework the bail will be granted.
    Trying to stop and check every person at the border is not going to happen.
    A bail enforcement unit is great but Mr Lilley makes a fool of himself when he states a knock on the door of a bailed person results in an arrest because he is not there.You will not be arresting a suspect who is not there.
    The pleading down of gun charges cannot take place without the consent of the Crown attorney.IF they have a strong case the charges should not be plead down.You then have to ask why they do not have a strong case.Rookie investigator,firearm not being tested and proven to be a firearm (happens all the time).Proving possession is difficult and then the grounds for a stop even more difficult........
    Yep,all of this plus expediency to avoid drawn out cases heading for court clogging court dockets adding delays from remands. Along come "plea deals" and the revolving door continues. It's a vicious cycle that,at some point,has to be broken.
    If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....

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    Interesting hearing all the opinions. I don't post much but read alot and I am following this closely . I know most of us people are busy and have jobs but in a worst case scenario maybe some kind of protest. What are the opinions on that?

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    Here is an interesting video

    Moose kill more people in a year than legal guns.

    The knife is neck and neck to the gun murderers.


    https://youtu.be/a77R_Ld9InY

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    Last edited by fishfood; February 20th, 2020 at 05:55 PM.

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    Violent crime in Markham guns and knives used.
    a 13 year old,15 and a 16 year old. Hijacking cars stabbing employees and kicking others in the face while robbing banks.

    Yet the guns are a problem. Maybe it's time to step up and face the real problems. The guns are not the problem the problem is the people.

    https://barrie.ctvnews.ca/mobile/thr...ital-1.4820248

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilroy View Post
    All sounds pretty easy but if it was it would have been done already.Bad guys get out on bail and this has been going on for decades.Why,you are presumed innocent until proven guilty,so you cannot keep a suspect in jail on an unfounded allegation.
    The Crown has the duty to SHOW CAUSE why an accused should be denied bail.If the investigating officer has not done his/her homework the bail will be granted.
    Trying to stop and check every person at the border is not going to happen.
    A bail enforcement unit is great but Mr Lilley makes a fool of himself when he states a knock on the door of a bailed person results in an arrest because he is not there.You will not be arresting a suspect who is not there.
    The pleading down of gun charges cannot take place without the consent of the Crown attorney.IF they have a strong case the charges should not be plead down.You then have to ask why they do not have a strong case.Rookie investigator,firearm not being tested and proven to be a firearm (happens all the time).Proving possession is difficult and then the grounds for a stop even more difficult........
    There was just a case with a prosecutor not bothering to show up, guy gets out for major charges.

    They don't do their job and another guy out there committing crimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishfood View Post
    So how do you stop them from crossing the border? You cant really what will they do about it? You cant stop and search every vehicle its just not possible. If the drugs are still coming across in great numbers the guns will continue as well.

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    Start by giving mandatory sentencing for gangbangers possessing illegal firearms for criminal purpose. The demand is there because theres no punishment for possession. 10 years for a loaded pistol might drive down demand and slow the flow across the border. Until then demand will continue to climb.

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    Yep the laws need to be changed a bit .
    1.2 million in scams leads to 6 months in jail. Only in Canada the crooks win every time.

    https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canad...le/ar-BB10ckJ4


    Wonder what these new cra scammers will get less then 2 years ? Scamming thousands out of hundreds of thousands of dollars. Maybe I wont recieve a call this month that says

    I go to jail, or you will be arrested [emoji23][emoji23][emoji102]

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