Both sides of the debate - Should there be a spring bear hunt?

[skull]

Sorry,but,you're out to lunch with that post. Farmers are in business to make money,not feed the Bears. Honey is a huge cash crop and bees are in danger of becoming listed as a species at risk. A friend of mine had seventeen hives all destroyed by a marauding Blackie over three day period,so,he took a flashlight and went out one night and shot it. It cost a small fortune to rebuild his operation. He applied to the township for some form of compensation and they just laughed at him. If it was me,I'd have whacked him sooner.

I’m sure you must missed understand what I have said
I have no problem if the farmers does kill the bear
But for someone else just to kill a bear to get rid of it that’s not the best thing to do

[fishermccann]

A farmer I know did not want to kill the bear, that damaged his hives, he put up an electric fence around them, problem solved. To each their own .

[rick_iles]

I’m sure you must missed understand what I have said
I have no problem if the farmers does kill the bear
But for someone else just to kill a bear to get rid of it that’s not the best thing to do

Some farmers don’t hunt. It’s perfectly OK to act as an agent to assist the landowner, providing the rules are followed.

[skull]

Some farmers don’t hunt. It’s perfectly OK to act as an agent to assist the landowner, providing the rules are followed.

Absolutely correct
But the OP said he is CONSIDERING on killing the bear to help the farmer
Witch is ok
I have suggested that there is different way to help
Not just killing something that you don’t want to

[Rob Stewart]

... stop slandering hunters on a hunting forum.

it takes a man to give,but it also takes a man to receive)

I think I saw that on a t-shirt downtown Toronto. ;-)


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[Rob Stewart]

I’m sure you must missed understand what I have said
I have no problem if the farmers does kill the bear
But for someone else just to kill a bear to get rid of it that’s not the best thing to do

I have a farmer friend who doesn’t have a gun or license. I’ve helped them a few times. Why on earth would it matter who takes care of a problem animal like bears or coyotes for a farmer?!? It’s illogical.


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[skull]

I have a farmer friend who doesn’t have a gun or license. I’ve helped them a few times. Why on earth would it matter who takes care of a problem animal like bears or coyotes for a farmer?!? It’s illogical.


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Let do this one last time
I have stated on all my posts that is nothing wrong helping the farmers
The original post if you haven’t read it is CONSIDERING on killing the bear
I have suggested that
there is no need for him on killing a bear if don’t want to or killing it just to get rid of it
The MNR can relocate the bear
Hope this clear things up

[firedeptlt]

I said considering because I have never hunted bear before.
The landowner DOES have electric fencing around his hives. Not an effective deterrent to this particular bear. This bear has also broken into a barn to get the reserve hives/combs.
The landowner has 600 acres and the bear chooses to come close to the homestead. This property is part a larger forest area ( approx 30000 acres ).
Being a newer hunter ( approx 2 years.. started at the ripe old age of 45 ) I think long and hard about what I am considering hunting. Some topics include shot placement ( bow only hunter ), proper care for the downed animal, hunting techniques, possible uses for the animal parts not just meat and hide. I do not take the idea of killing an animal lightly.thumbnail_IMG_9973.jpgthumbnail_IMG_9974.jpgthumbnail_IMG_0070.jpg

[MikePal]

The MNR can relocate the bear
Hope this clear things up

Not that easy..since 2012 the removal is done thru the bear wise program. The MNR will only assist the OPP, on request and that is if, primarily there is a public safety concern. The farmer would have to jump thru all sorts of hoops, lots of phone calls etc.

His choices to resolve is to: A) as mentioned , fence (electric) around the hives, That's expensive and not always practical or very efficient in most hive setups or B) since he is authorized by law to use an agent to remove the beer permanently... FREE.

Not a tough decision.

note: I single hive of bees can cost close to $1k to replace not to mention, the loss of the honey harvest in the fall could cost another another $1k. If he has 5-6 hives that gets pretty expensive. A quick, permanent resolve to the beer problem is prudent.

[MikePal]

I think long and hard about what I am considering hunting. Some topics include shot placement ( bow only hunter ), proper care for the downed animal, hunting techniques, possible uses for the animal parts not just meat and hide. I do not take the idea of killing an animal lightly.

I was typing my last post when you posted this, sorry if there is some confusion. Good to get additional info.

If you feel your skill set is limited and you'd like some assistance, there are a few local hunters (Ottawa area) on this forum that would more than likely be happy to offer you assistance in helping the farmer.