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April 21st, 2020, 11:14 AM
#11

Originally Posted by
canadaman30
The testing is kind of a joke at best. When the so called testing first started coming to your door unless you answered every question to their satisfaction they turned you down and told you to just stay home for 2-3 weeks. My wife has a family member working at the assessment clinic at our local hospital and we have been told the same, unless you meet all the criteria they are just sending people back home. She tells us daily most of the people being screened are not being tested. They are just telling the people the same to go home and stay home.
I wonder how they get correct results from doing it this way. How do they control the spread this way? Just tell everyone that catches a cold to stay home for 2 weeks?
Without having test available and ready for everyone there is no way to put a hold on this virus. So the 20 percent who shows no symptoms continue to spead it around. Another 20 percent are not being tested because they're symptoms are not serious or do not match the test criteria.
So know there would be a minimum of 40 percent spreading it like fire because we wont test them. Seems kind of dumb to me when they want to investigate and to contact tracing each case. Then they only know some that are infected with the virus.
Our death toll doesn't add of for the infected cases puts us at a higher percentage death rates because they only test who they want.
How are we getting 150 dead and only 12 to 16 hundred cases a day?. When the hospitals are not even maxed out??. Ontario numbers should have a few thousand more cases than it does.
We need more test done plain and simple
What's going on at the retirement homes ?? Seems like many have died in the long term care home they reside in. Are they bringing ventilators in to help them ? What's being done to protect our elders in these homes? Seems many are dying not in the hospital but in these homes. I understand they cant sent 30 patients from a long term care facilities to the hospital so what are our doctors doing to help and protect all these people. ?
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April 21st, 2020 11:14 AM
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April 21st, 2020, 11:22 AM
#12
Has too much time on their hands
I love the fact that they're confident enough to proclaim that we're "past the peak" in Ontario, yet not even 2 weeks ago the alarm was raised over a severe lack of testing.
Not an expert, but if that's where testing was at less than 2 weeks ago, I'd say they don't have enough data to be making claims like that. But it's what people want to hear so it's news.
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April 21st, 2020, 11:48 AM
#13

Originally Posted by
GW11
I love the fact that they're confident enough to proclaim that we're "past the peak" in Ontario, yet not even 2 weeks ago the alarm was raised over a severe lack of testing.
Not an expert, but if that's where testing was at less than 2 weeks ago, I'd say they don't have enough data to be making claims like that. But it's what people want to hear so it's news.
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We are not over our peak yet in Ontario
Maybe some of the other provinces are but Ontario and Quebec no.
Maybe they can drop the peek if they drop number of test ,test less and pass the curve lol. . Personally I'd like to see every single Canadian tested no ifs and buts about it. Test as much as they can.
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April 21st, 2020, 11:52 AM
#14

Originally Posted by
JBen
It’s weird how some people havent been touched by Covid such as yourself Fatri, and others have. In our extended family it’s touched 3 people in different degree’s and ways.
I still have one Uncle I’m worried about. He was moved from Ross Memorial at the start to an LTC. Thank god it wasn’t Pinecrest in Bobcaygeon.
Fatri, if we have 1,000 hospitals in Ontario ( no idea the actual number) they just have to test an average of 9-10 each per day. What I dont understand is why some places can get results in 2-3 days, others are taking up to two weeks.
Apparently we have over 1400 hospitals in Canada from a 2016 study.
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April 21st, 2020, 12:26 PM
#15
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
fishfood
We are not over our peak yet in Ontario
Maybe some of the other provinces are but Ontario and Quebec no.
Maybe they can drop the peek if they drop number of test ,test less and pass the curve lol. . Personally I'd like to see every single Canadian tested no ifs and buts about it. Test as much as they can.
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I'm guessing that's the plan, less testing means less confirmed cases to crest the peak and flatten the curve on paper. Possibly our government is considering giving up the fight of the spread to bring back the economy. Seems the attempts made to contain the spread has failed miserably because of the delay in our federal government to take actions months ago when needed were ignored. Even worse the actions Trudeau was telling us his government was taking were not actually happening at all with international travellers. Weeks prior our so called leader had his wife and kids living it up in the UK getting his wife sick because of his own personal greed. Then returned home to hiding out telling us all to do our part and stay home while he took his family and his cavalry to his cottage for an Easter weekend away. Do as I say, not as I do, great leadership qualities we have in this country. As far as the testing go's you can throw the numbers out the window they dont mean squat
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April 21st, 2020, 01:29 PM
#16

Originally Posted by
GW11
I love the fact that they're confident enough to proclaim that we're "past the peak" in Ontario, yet not even 2 weeks ago the alarm was raised over a severe lack of testing.
Not an expert, but if that's where testing was at less than 2 weeks ago, I'd say they don't have enough data to be making claims like that. But it's what people want to hear so it's news.
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That "past the peak" declaration is DEFINITELY way too premature ... it can change in 1 day. There are many days when the US new cases dropped consecutively and then they all of a sudden pumped out a new record daily infection rate.
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April 21st, 2020, 01:33 PM
#17

Originally Posted by
fratri
But still, how do they get 9,000 plus people coming in everyday.... just can't figure it out how that really works....
People get symptoms ... they either call, fill in a survey or go to a test center. They are asked questions, if they do not have sufficient symptoms or risk (have you traveled in past 14 days, were you exposed to anyone that got COVID), they are turned away .... and only those that do have sufficient indicators are subjected to the test. Mostly this is started by the individual that feels they might have it.
I am not sure if they automatically test anyone in close vicinity to those that are COVID positive ...
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April 21st, 2020, 01:38 PM
#18

Originally Posted by
canadaman30
I'm guessing that's the plan, less testing means less confirmed cases to crest the peak and flatten the curve on paper. Possibly our government is considering giving up the fight of the spread to bring back the economy. Seems the attempts made to contain the spread has failed miserably because of the delay in our federal government to take actions months ago when needed were ignored. Even worse the actions Trudeau was telling us his government was taking were not actually happening at all with international travellers. Weeks prior our so called leader had his wife and kids living it up in the UK getting his wife sick because of his own personal greed. Then returned home to hiding out telling us all to do our part and stay home while he took his family and his cavalry to his cottage for an Easter weekend away. Do as I say, not as I do, great leadership qualities we have in this country. As far as the testing go's you can throw the numbers out the window they dont mean squat
Still 37 days after wuhan went into lockdown and the start of a 10 day hospital build. 27 days after the hospital was built Our government insisted it would not shut down travel from China. Our health experts know everything you know.
They are some of the smartest we have that know nothing lol. We listen to our world health organization experts doctors that ar not even doctors but experts at covering these situations up.
Airlines counting to travel for 55 to 60 days to many hotspots after China went into lockdown. Our government has been horrible to listen to they have taken nothing serious to any of the early warnings.
50 days after wuhan was in lock down go have fun on your march break enjoy the pandemic lol.
No we wont test you didnt leave Ontario after 10 million people passed through.
We have the experts saying 37 days after wuhan lockdown they have the experts to track this disease. When they never even did a temperature check in any airport for at least 55 days days after wuhan locked down. But you know they are the experts lol. They know so much the cant even check the temperatures of the travelers
https://torontosun.com/news/national...mains-strategy
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April 21st, 2020, 02:30 PM
#19

Originally Posted by
MarkB
People get symptoms ... they either call, fill in a survey or go to a test center. They are asked questions, if they do not have sufficient symptoms or risk (have you traveled in past 14 days, were you exposed to anyone that got COVID), they are turned away .... and only those that do have sufficient indicators are subjected to the test. Mostly this is started by the individual that feels they might have it.
I am not sure if they automatically test anyone in close vicinity to those that are COVID positive ...
So I guess there are more than 9,000 people a day (everyday-Monday to Sunday) that want to get tested but not enough tests to get them all tested?
9,000 and more each day, every day seems like a lot of people wanting/needing to be tested..... I just don't know where these people are coming from...Just can't seem to wrap my head around it.... I just don't see it, (line ups) it might be because I am stuck here in my home 
And IMO, everyone that want's to venture out in the community, whether it to be for work or pleasure should be tested....
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April 21st, 2020, 04:48 PM
#20
We are lacking testing and we cant properly reopen with out proper testing.
Ontario is the worst of them all yet we have so many cases but lag in test. Our testing slacks and it's been said for weeks. Still not even 9000 thousand test on Sunday. Yet they want to ramp it up 16 thousand by may 5th.
https://www.nationalobserver.com/202...tall-reopening
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