Gun ban talks back after a sad weekend in NS

[MikePal]

But Trudeau is smarter than we give him credit for.

On that note..the Liberals really have set a trap for the conservatives:

But here’s the problem for him and the rest of the Conservatives: new polling shows most Canadians support the government’s gun ban.

A new Angus Reid survey suggests 80 per cent of voters back Trudeau, a troubling number for the Tories that gets worse when you break it down by region.

Support for the Trudeau weapon ban is highest in the crucial political battlegrounds of Ontario and Quebec, where the next election will likely be won or lost.

And even though the government is publicly focused on the COVID-19 pandemic, you can bet Liberal political strategists are privately smiling as they crunch the polling numbers.

So I asked O’Toole: how do the Conservatives get out of this trap?

“You get around to it by not lying to Canadians,” he told me, insisting the fight against deadly weapons should start at the Canada-U.S. border.

“We live on the border of the country with the most voracious appetite for weapons and the lowest standards of acquisition,” he said.

“So we have to work at the border. We have to be stronger on criminals.”

asked O’Toole what a Conservative government would do if he wins the party leadership and becomes prime minister.

“I would reverse what Trudeau has done,” he said. “We will redraft our firearms legislation.”

Which is exactly what Trudeau and the Liberals want him to say.

The Liberals will surely see their gun ban now as a key wedge issue that drives votes their way in the next election.

[canadaman30]

Define assault rifle.

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Semi-auto rifle with selective fire for full auto bursts?

[fishfood]

The definition of an

Assault rifle

Noun

A rapid-fire, magazine-fed automatic rifle designed for infantry use.


That's the definition

Sound like it was already a prohibited weapon in Canada. Before the ban lol.

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[410001661]

Semi-auto rifle with selective fire for full auto bursts?

Correct......and some military rifles have 3 round bursts instead of full auto

M16A2, M16A4 and M4 of the U.S. Military has three round burst was because of the fear that troops would expend too much ammo in a “spray and pray” fashion, stead of a controlled shots. At the same time, they figured burst could be used just as effectively as full-auto when needed.

[terrym]

Virtually “all” politicians are experiencing good polling. People don’t bite the hand that feeds them. When the money tap gets turned off reality will set in.

[410001661]

The definition of an

Assault rifle

Noun

A rapid-fire, magazine-fed automatic rifle designed for infantry use.


That's the definition

Sound like it was already a prohibited weapon in Canada. Before the ban lol.

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Fishfood.........sorry but you are incorrect. There is NO legal definition of the term 'assault rifle' in Canada's firearm legislation and hence we make reference to the US department of justice and their definition of the term.

.......and I quote:

“Assault weapon” is not a legally defined term in Canada’s firearms
legislation. Various international jurisdictions use different terms and
definitions, often based on physical characteristics. For illustrative
purposes, the US Department of Justice has used the following
description: “in general, assault weapons are semiautomatic firearms
with a large magazine of ammunition that were designed and
configured for rapid fire.”

This definition was derived from:
US Department of Justice, Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use
Protection Act (known as the Federal Assault Weapon Ban), enacted in 1994
and expired in 2004.

https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/c...lnt-crm-en.pdf

[js4fn]

https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/firear...vices#firearms


**Exceptions are included under the Amnesty Order to allow for the continued use of the newly-prohibited firearms and/or devices (if previously non-restricted) by individuals who hunt or trap to sustain themselves or their families, and by Indigenous persons exercising Aboriginal or treaty rights to hunt. At the end of the amnesty period, all firearm owners must comply with the new law.

[fishfood]

Fishfood.........sorry but you are incorrect. There is NO legal definition of the term 'assault rifle' in Canada's firearm legislation and hence we make reference to the US department of justice and their definition of the term.

.......and I quote:

“Assault weapon” is not a legally defined term in Canada’s firearms
legislation. Various international jurisdictions use different terms and
definitions, often based on physical characteristics. For illustrative
purposes, the US Department of Justice has used the following
description: “in general, assault weapons are semiautomatic firearms
with a large magazine of ammunition that were designed and
configured for rapid fire.”

This definition was derived from:
US Department of Justice, Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use
Protection Act (known as the Federal Assault Weapon Ban), enacted in 1994
and expired in 2004.

https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/c...lnt-crm-en.pdf

Was just going by the net lol.

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[MikePal]

Virtually “all” politicians are experiencing good polling. People don’t bite the hand that feeds them. When the money tap gets turned off reality will set in.

That's very true and there was a article in the NP a few days back..

But former NDP leader Tom Mulcair had a similar thought in his Sun newspaper column. He suggested Trudeau was testing campaign lines during a recent TV appearance.

He pointed out that a prime minister can resign at any time and claim he needs a new mandate to confront the economic predicament facing the country. Mulcair noted that Trudeau has created $10,000 of new debt for every man, woman and child in Canada but he knows there will be another election before he has to bring in new taxes to start dealing with it.

That does not seem unreasonable speculation. One of Trudeau’s senior advisors dismissed such thoughts. “You clearly have too much time on your hands,” he said, adding he didn’t see an election this fall.

Maybe not. But one day, the health emergency will turn into an economic crunch that will likely require tax increases. One day, there will be audits on government initiatives that, inevitably, will unearth massive mis-spending. One day, memories of government largesse will fade, as the headlines are dominated with bad news. One day, the Conservatives will do the right thing, having tried everything else. And one day, voters will be gripped with a burning desire to turf the prime minister from office.

[410001661]

Agreed........that is why they will want an election soon before:
- the taxes come in to pay for COVID-19 and the associated relief packages
- cost savings cuts to pay for COVID-19 and the associated relief packages
- the gov't starts to audit people that received assistance that did not qualify
- the honeymoon stage is over and we are back to work