Mandatory Masks

[GW11]

I had the esteemed privilege of watching the masked up hordes in action this past long weekend in Sauble Beach. From a distance and without a mask on myself of course. I tried to cancel but this trip was booked last year. Long story, but we ended up going.

I won't get into all of the boring details, but the pro-maskers really need to get off the koolaid. It isn't the few of us who would rather not wear a mask that are the problem, it's the selfish, entitled behaviour of mask wearers who will perpetuate it.

My family and I were only in contact with each other and the lady at the registration desk at the campground. Our friends (separate trailers and campsites) were elbow to elbow with the mases daily, and made stops in multiple towns and big cities on the road. We drove straight through (one stop for gas and drive through) and kept to ourselves. One day it rained nonstop, and while they went into town for more entertainment, we stayed on the campsite and made the most if it. Who is really "slowing the spread"?

The pro-maskers now have a free pass to go back to their old ways and that's what started this to begin with. I don't understand the attraction or need to be jammed in with other people for the sake of entertaining oneself.

As a side note, I made it through the entire long weekend without once wearing a mask or breaking any bylaws. My wife, who isn't sold on masks either, did not mind making the few required in person transactions where masks were required.

One key takeaway from the 1918 pandemic was that the potential benefit of masks is only achievable in conjunction with other rigid public health measures. Somehow we've disregarded history and come to the conclusion that implementing masks while dropping the measures that have been proven to work is the answer. Again I'll say, we'll see what happens when the weather cools down and people are back indoors.


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[Deer Wrastler]

I ordered a half dozen assorted fishing buffs for both me and the Mrs. I got two from Harley-Davidson with skull teeth on them that the kids love. The rest are Mossy Oak,snow camo and TA-TA-TA-TAAAAA.........Canadian and US flags (wife demanded equal representation). Screw it,I'm using them all when going into the store line ups. I can't breath through surgical masks for more than 5 minutes. I hate them with a passion. If the sole purpose of a mask (supposedly) is to keep me from spittin' and slobberin', they work perfectly. Besides,they shut the snowflakes up.

That's what I wear at work as my workplace has deemed cloth coverings acceptable same with all the other municipal regulations they merely state to wear a face covering. You dont want a full on N95 dust mask for more then a few minutes or your face will sweat. The gaitors are much more comfortable IMO and I already am used to wearing one while hunting which normally is at least a 4hr sit. I wear them 8hrs at work and now I barely notice it.

[Deer Wrastler]

Bingo...pay attention

There are plenty of studies showing both sides of the mask debate. Some countries appear to be doing fine without mandatory masks. Even WHO has flip flopped on the issue. Making masks mandatory is government over reach in my opinion. If you want to wear a mask fine, if you don't that's fine too.

There is no need for mandatory vaccinations either. If you want the vaccine get it and if it works you have nothing to worry about. There is no reason for it to be other than voluntary like the annual flu vaccine.

Everything I have read about the COVID vaccination says it is not a normal vaccination and it is an mRNA vaccination that has never actually been successful. What I have read about it is worrisome and I am not that interested in being a guinea pig for it.

The mortality rate of COVID does not warrant continued lockdowns, mandatory masks or mandatory vaccines.

As gun owners we know how the government lies to prop up the gun lobby and uses emotion to enact nonsense gun laws. What makes you think they aren't using the same tactics and lies to promote mandatory masks and vaccinations.

I am a conservative supporter but Doug Ford's bill that allows them to extend emergency measures without there being a declared emergency is troubling, but everyone is on board because of fear.

Everyone in Canada complains about the Americans and their response to COVID. I just see a population that isn't willing to give up it's rights and freedoms so easily.

And thats why their numbers are skyrocketing because "freedom" is in the eye of the beholder. An old person in a LTC might define freedom as the ability to see their loved ones and not be exposed or risk dying from something that so far science has deemed can be controlled if people follow the controls. Freedom doesnt mean you can run around doing whatever you want for your own personal gain at other people's expense without anyone controlling the situation, thats called Anarchy not freedom.

[canadaman30]

Times sure changed in the past few months. First were shamed for leaving home for anything besides food, even walking pets was being shamed. Those going to their cottage or camp would be met with bashing for being selfish and inconsiderate. So many of us being labeled the problem. And we continued doing those things on top of going to work everyday, and we did it without masks, while so many others sat at home in fear, bashing those who kept them from starving and the economy from total collapse. Without masks the numbers have declined enough so that the fear mongers can come out of hiding and go back to living again. It takes more then a mask to stop the spread, it takes commons sense, something thats to hard for many to grasp.

[canadaman30]

And thats why their numbers are skyrocketing because "freedom" is in the eye of the beholder. An old person in a LTC might define freedom as the ability to see their loved ones and not be exposed or risk dying from something that so far science has deemed can be controlled if people follow the controls. Freedom doesnt mean you can run around doing whatever you want for your own personal gain at other people's expense without anyone controlling the situation, thats called Anarchy not freedom.

And what do you think is going on here right now. You can do everything you want as long as you wear a mask.

[mosquito]

Masks.... they sold out ... https://shop.firearmrights.ca/collec...ccfr-face-mask
DU ... https://www.ducks.org/support/donate...341&poe=shopdu
I got some from here a bit ago, cheap and local and descent made AND they sell filters too.
https://www.etsy.com/ca/listing/8104..._click=1&frs=1

N95 will protect the wearer and those around
N95 with vent... only the wearer
surgical and cloth masks protect the other person not you generally unless you add a filter, the masks don't have to be heavy to help and the scared, paranoid and angry will be less so... too much noise... in Japan they have been wearing them to slow the spread of colds etc. for decades and they seem to help so just wear the bloody things. It makes those ignorant of the realities happy and might even protect you ... a bit... and if you have it then it should help protect those around you.

The way some feel wearing ANY mask .... and the reality.
https://starecat.com/content/wp-cont...n-the-eyes.jpg


I wonder if my Buff's UV qualify... their insect replant version looks interesting
https://buffusa.com/

Shots: there were 6 strains about a month ago they were tracking... now I see 8 being tracked.... shots will likely work about as well as the flu shots... MAYBE a bit better
https://nextstrain.org/ncov/global?c=region&l=clock

IF it isn't actually causing a problem like other incidents..
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/co...s-history.html
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015...es-more-deadly


Watching the rhetoric, the brown shirts ... I mean ANTIFA etc., the intolerance and grabs for power (Justlied etc.) and more and more the left keeps reminding me of history or prophecies or literature ... so which do you think they are modelling their ideal after, Stalin, Mao, 1930's National Socialists in Germany, the book 1984 or Revelations 13:17 & 18....... or just bits and pieces of all of the above????

[fishermccann]

Your such a flake to deny that this occurred under the same actions that are occurring right now. Take your hurt feelings elsewhere. If we dont remind people of the past and what occurred....then we are doomed to repeat it..

Nice try to shame truth. but that is what the left does. I expect people to vote for with an untarnished truth in speaking. If they dont, great, that is their choice.

Bzzzzzz...Wrong answer. I never denied that it happened . It did. You equated people being mandated to wear masks with the Jews being lead onto a train, 'to a better place'. Meanwhile they were being sent to be exterminated. You act like they had a choice , whether or not ,to get on that train, they did not. Such comments are uncalled for and would appear to be anti-semitic to 99% of people who would vote. With thoughts like yours your party will not get more votes than the Rhino Party...again. Wackos.

[Jakezilla]

And thats why their numbers are skyrocketing because "freedom" is in the eye of the beholder. An old person in a LTC might define freedom as the ability to see their loved ones and not be exposed or risk dying from something that so far science has deemed can be controlled if people follow the controls. Freedom doesnt mean you can run around doing whatever you want for your own personal gain at other people's expense without anyone controlling the situation, thats called Anarchy not freedom.

Everyone is responsible for their own health. It's the governments job to protect my rights, it's my job to protect my health.

How much of our children's future are we willing to sacrifice for our safety?

When everyone thought the mortality of this would be around 3% people were throwing around the jelly bean argument. If there were 100 jelly beans in a dish and you knew 3 of them were poison, would you eat any. People never looked at the other side of that. The penalty for not eating any are inability to provide for your loved ones, bankruptcy, unemployment etc. For me, I'm grabbing a handful and many of us with high risk jobs do that everyday.

Life is full of risk and lots of the older people I know take their own precautions but do not want the next generation to sacrifice the future for their safety.

Our society has become so risk averse that we are losing our ability to function.

[canadaman30]

Bzzzzzz...Wrong answer. I never denied that it happened . It did. You equated people being mandated to wear masks with the Jews being lead onto a train, 'to a better place'. Meanwhile they were being sent to be exterminated. You act like they had a choice , whether or not ,to get on that train, they did not. Such comments are uncalled for and would appear to be anti-semitic to 99% of people who would vote. With thoughts like yours your party will not get more votes than the Rhino Party...again. Wackos.

What do you consider people who vote for Trudeau? Wackos, would be a kind gesture imo. I have my own vehical, your train is to full for me to ride

[mosquito]

Everyone is responsible for their own health. It's the governments job to protect my rights, it's my job to protect my health.

How much of our children's future are we willing to sacrifice for our safety?

When everyone thought the mortality of this would be around 3% people were throwing around the jelly bean argument. If there were 100 jelly beans in a dish and you knew 3 of them were poison, would you eat any. People never looked at the other side of that. The penalty for not eating any are inability to provide for your loved ones, bankruptcy, unemployment etc. For me, I'm grabbing a handful and many of us with high risk jobs do that everyday.

Life is full of risk and lots of the older people I know take their own precautions but do not want the next generation to sacrifice the future for their safety.

Our society has become so risk averse that we are losing our ability to function.

They ignore the reality .... what if those Jelly Beans were your only food, you would likely eat a few then nibble a bit on one and wait to see if you felt sick... or in Wuhan pneumonia terms keep working and wear masks. Many countries just made masks mandatory and went on with life, often having high counts but then again Canada went up 761 yesterday alone,( about 1/2 the US increase that day while they have 10X the population) there are some that should face criminal charges in the US in places like NY and NJ
https://www.worldometers.info/corona...=homeAdvegas1?
and I would say some Canadian officials should be accountable too. Here's Tam saying we don't need them... until they became we must wear them or else.... hmmm
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canad...ks/vi-BB11VxFM

Some small businesses can't get staff now because they can make $2k on CERB and stay home (can't blame them), our unemployment is highest in the G7 and the deficit will likely blow past $400B this year ... and our gov't gave away tons of supplies to China and that whole fiasco, we were told masks and travel restrictions etc. didn't work, that they were screening at the airport (Rebel showed that a lied and I know people travelling after they said they were screening ... more lies .... with Justlied there we are so screwed!

What do you consider people who vote for Trudeau? Wackos, would be a kind gesture imo. I have my own vehical, your train is to full for me to ride

More accurate but you need to include ...
“A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims... but accomplices” - George Orwell
and as for their attitudes..
https://spencerfernando.com/2019/06/...iberal-caucus/

Another HMMMM... no factory in Canada and gets Fed deal.....
Quebec company with no factory snags $133M contract to make PPE


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