When will it end ,fights , burning vehicle's and building's

[Saskfly]

Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth ancestors made the agreements with the first Nations a few hundred years ago and those agreements have been honoured by The Supreme Court.Other countries invaded and pillaged by the Crown a few hundred years ago,kicked Her Majesty to the curb and took their countries back over.India being a good example.
The counties she still has a hand in Australia,Canada,New Zealand, the aboriginal peoples have fared pretty badly.

Perhaps Canada should be asking Her Majesty for subsidies,or grants to support us in dealing with the problem she pawned off on us and the rest of the commonwealth.

When we took our constitution back we agreed to take all debts and obligations as well. She has good lawyers and it was part of the deal!


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[MikePal]

As a point of reference when we discuss Aboriginals and the Indian Act on how it affects the taxpayers:

Total population by Aboriginal identity and Registered or Treaty Indian status, Canada, 2016. In 2016, there were 1,673,780 Aboriginal people in Canada, making up 4.9% of the population.

That's about the population of the National Capital region in Ontario (Ottawa itself is 1.2 million)

Budget 2019 proposes to invest a further $4.5 billion over five years, beginning in 2019–20, to continue efforts to close the gap between the living conditions of Indigenous Peoples and the non-Indigenous population, bringing total planned federal government investments in Indigenous programs to more than $17 billion in 2021–22, an increase of 50 per cent compared to the year the Government was elected.

Yes the Indian Affairs budget for reconciliation is $17 billion...mathematically that is $10, 625 for every Indigenous person in Canada.

And that doesn't include other benefits such as:

Health Canada spent almost $1.1 billion on supplementary benefits such as dental care, vision care and pharmaceutical drugs for eligible First Nations and Inuit Canadians. That coverage is not required by treaties or by constitution. And most other Canadians must spend out-of-pocket or buy insurance for such items.

Take a read of the budget for reconciliation to the taxpayers of Canada. : https://www.budget.gc.ca/2019/docs/p...wbdisable=true

[trimmer21]

Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth ancestors made the agreements with the first Nations a few hundred years ago and those agreements have been honoured by The Supreme Court.Other countries invaded and pillaged by the Crown a few hundred years ago,kicked Her Majesty to the curb and took their countries back over.India being a good example.
The counties she still has a hand in Australia,Canada,New Zealand, the aboriginal peoples have fared pretty badly.

Perhaps Canada should be asking Her Majesty for subsidies,or grants to support us in dealing with the problem she pawned off on us and the rest of the commonwealth.

The treaties were first negotiated by King George III and again by Queen Victoria until being enshrined by Elizabeth II when the British North America Act was morphed into The Charter by Trudeau I. The Supreme Court has ruled on many treaties before that and since,but,has never ruled that the rights of the FN were sacrosanct and all encompassing. Every one of them is open to interpretation. As such,every one them is subject to appeal,repeal and revision by Parliament. What is needed is a government that's unafraid of being labelled racist and being completely hamstrung by "political correctness" to finally take the bull by the horns and drag First Nations into the 21st century.

As a point of reference when we discuss Aboriginals and the Indian Act on how it affects the taxpayers:



That's about the population of the National Capital region in Ontario (Ottawa itself is 1.2 million)



Yes the Indian Affairs budget for reconciliation is $17 billion...mathematically that is $10, 625 for every Indigenous person in Canada.

And that doesn't include other benefits such as:



Take a read of the budget for reconciliation to the taxpayers of Canada. : https://www.budget.gc.ca/2019/docs/p...wbdisable=true

Whomever did the math where 1.6M FN was 4.9% of the population (33.8M) needs to go back to school. There's more licensed firearms owners (3.2M) in Canada than aboriginals. Liberals don't give a flyin' fiddlers f... about them,so,how far into the toilet does that put FN? Take a look at how difficult is was for South Africa to overcome Apartheid,yet,they still did it. We can do it,too. It just takes political will,honor,integrity and fortitude.

[mosquito]

When one segment of society is granted special rights over the other segment of society,this will always be the net result. Canada has been vilified the world over for our FN policies,including at the UN. Until we apply "tough love" and repeal The Indian Act,cut off all funding to the First Nations and FORCE integration into main stream Canadian society,nothing will ever change.

As long as race is used to segregate and divide it we will continue to see reserves exempt from accountability, integrity and fairness and people left in poverty while their chiefs fill their accounts and friends accounts ... but hey the LIbErals are in power and virtue signalling and lies are more important that fairness, integrity and accountability. It's 2020 and race based politics given to us by PM black face are the norm.... Harper made the chiefs accountable and disclose spending... but the Libs scrapped that fast, maybe in 2021 we can actually make progress!

[73hunter]

The treaties were first negotiated by King George III and again by Queen Victoria until being enshrined by Elizabeth II when the British North America Act was morphed into The Charter by Trudeau I. The Supreme Court has ruled on many treaties before that and since,but,has never ruled that the rights of the FN were sacrosanct and all encompassing. Every one of them is open to interpretation. As such,every one them is subject to appeal,repeal and revision by Parliament. What is needed is a government that's unafraid of being labelled racist and being completely hamstrung by "political correctness" to finally take the bull by the horns and drag First Nations into the 21st century.



Whomever did the math where 1.6M FN was 4.9% of the population (33.8M) needs to go back to school. There's more licensed firearms owners (3.2M) in Canada than aboriginals. Liberals don't give a flyin' fiddlers f... about them,so,how far into the toilet does that put FN? Take a look at how difficult is was for South Africa to overcome Apartheid,yet,they still did it. We can do it,too. It just takes political will,honor,integrity and fortitude.

I agree with all your posts on this, but honour, integrity and fortitude are in short supply in 2020. And if you found any at all, it would be short-lived and require constant replenishment.

[Gilroy]

When we took our constitution back we agreed to take all debts and obligations as well. She has good lawyers and it was part of the deal!


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She sure has good lawyers LOL

https://www.rt.com/business/469170-c...d-owner-queen/

[johnjyb]

I don't believe any Aboriginal groups want to be integrated into Canadian (for lack of a better word) society, but want to keep and uphold their own cultural identity. The biggest problem is who decides what that is and who pays for it.
No 1 I know believes they should have to pay for something their great great grandparents did to someone else that at the time was socially accepted and was deemed to be normal. Time changes peoples conceptions of what is right and wrong or even legal or not.
Should all women be able to sue the government because they were not allowed to vote at one time? They might have been able to change the views of the Government back in the day with their voices.
Aboriginals at one time also had slaves, but that is rarely mentioned anywhere.
At one time most native tribes fought other tribes over land, hunting rights or just perceived slights. How far back do you go to figure out who is deserving of land rights or financial compensation and who is responsible to make these decisions?
Maybe we just set an arbitrary time and date, say June 23rd 1725 and whoever owned or occupied any and all lands in the world gets to own/occupy/govern that country or parcel.
There is no easy answer everyone will ever agree with. People, even with the same interests and background are always going to disagree, that is human nature.
John

[MikePal]

I don't believe any Aboriginal groups want to be integrated into Canadian (for lack of a better word) society, but want to keep and uphold their own cultural identity. The biggest problem is who decides what that is and who pays for it.

Absolutely..."Cultural Identity."..since the Indian Act (1867) they started to live off the money they are paid by the Federal government, the same ones they accuse of Colonizing them. If they truly lived their lives like their ancestors then they have the right to continue with their heritage rights, but stop relying on money from the Federal Government.

And as long as they continue to accept Canadian Taxpayers money, we have the right to ask for accountability. Most of the bands refuse and the Liberals won't enforce the Act. .

In 2015, for instance, Trudeau decided that the federal government would not enforce the First Nations Financial Transparency Act (FNFTA). The law (since 2011) requires Indigenous leaders, often inherited chiefs, to be accountable and transparent by forcing them to publish audits of band expenses, including their compensation.

(the FNFTA: The purpose of this Act is to enhance the financial accountability and transparency of First Nations by requiring the preparation and public disclosure of their audited consolidated financial statements and of the schedules of remuneration paid and expenses reimbursed to a First Nation’s chief and each of its councillors — acting in their capacity as such and in any other capacity, including their personal capacity — by the First Nation and by any entity that, in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles, is required to be consolidated with the First Nation. )

Treaty rights do not allow them to break the law. Blockades obstruct traffic...basic law that should be enforced but never is due to political interference.

[greatwhite]

Interesting when the FN blocked the trains in Ontario Liberals could care less but when something is the other way around people want the military called out. Sounds very racists to me.

[canadaman30]

Interesting when the FN blocked the trains in Ontario Liberals could care less but when something is the other way around people want the military called out. Sounds very racists to me.

The trains should have ran them over. The rest of them would think twice about blocking the railway. Our current government is to cowardly to do anything to stop them. Every dollar lost should have been taken from their handouts x10