Safe Storage

[Bowjob]

lol when i went for my saftey course,

the teacher was a retired cop,

he said your guns just need to be behind a locked door in your house and the ammo in another place.

also said you can legally have a gun in your back seat on the floor unloaded with no locks on it driving around? as long as its unloaded?

this didnt seem right to me always have my firearms locked in the truck


as long as the firearm is rendered inoperable that's safe storage i would think

[Gilroy]

I'm curious how others interpret the word "remote", as contained within the F.A.

" Paragraphs (1)(b) and (c) do not apply to an individual who stores a non-restricted firearm in a location that is in a remote wilderness area that is not subject to any visible or otherwise reasonably ascertainable use incompatible with hunting"

There is no definition of the word that I could find in the act? In fact, I don't believe the word "wilderness" is defined either? Does this regulation mean 100 miles in the bush or a cabin 100 feet away from a road in a largely rural area surrounded by bush for several miles?

Pretty interesting question and I have pondered it a few times.

A bunch of Toronto University students go up to Baffin Island to study snow geese each year.They have to get their PAL,s in order to use shotguns on site in case of Polar Bear problems.Their field office would IMHO qualify for a remote wilderness
situation.

A bunch of Moose hunters go up to Crown Land 100 klm north of Thunder Bay.They drive down a logging road for 35 klms and set up camp.Another camp is 5klms north of them and another 5klms south of them on the same road.

Camp in the middle leaves a shotgun behind in the tent while they go out hunt Moose.

They get home in the evening and the shotgun is stolen.They call the OPP and report it and relay on the remote wilderness defence,but its pointed out to them about the two neighbouring camps.

So I think you could rely on one scenario but perhaps not the other.

[Deer Wrastler]

Left grey to allow the LEOs to charge you and you to defend yourself, most of the firearms storage laws are grey, I can only ascertain that they want to be able to charge people and force them to spend the money to defend themselves.

You really think the MNR writes rules vaguely so they can issue more tickets and charge people easier? That would be a pretty big ethical concern/conspiracy that law makers around the world would have to be in agreement on. The hunting regs in Michigan are vague too, so the DNR must want to punish people and waste their time and money as well?

Laws are left vague because every situation is different and the LEOs need to have wiggle room to weigh each situation accordingly and make an informed decision based on uniqueness of each case. Nobody would read the regs if there was a law for every single situation you could come across, the book would be 9000 pages long. Laws are written to be taken using common sense and for you to be able to grasp the "spirit of the law". Even judges don't all agree on how laws are supposed to be "read".

[Deer Wrastler]

lol when i went for my saftey course,

the teacher was a retired cop,

he said your guns just need to be behind a locked door in your house and the ammo in another place.

also said you can legally have a gun in your back seat on the floor unloaded with no locks on it driving around? as long as its unloaded?

this didnt seem right to me always have my firearms locked in the truck


as long as the firearm is rendered inoperable that's safe storage i would think

depends on restricted vs non restricted they both have different storage laws. You can legally have a non restricted in your vehicle as long as it is unloaded you could have ammo and a shot gun laying on the back seat. While its not illegal its probably irresponsible and inadvisable.

[GW11]

lol when i went for my saftey course,

the teacher was a retired cop,

he said your guns just need to be behind a locked door in your house and the ammo in another place.

also said you can legally have a gun in your back seat on the floor unloaded with no locks on it driving around? as long as its unloaded?

this didnt seem right to me always have my firearms locked in the truck


as long as the firearm is rendered inoperable that's safe storage i would think

You can drive around with it in the seat beside you and the cartridges in your pocket if like. As long as it's between the hours of 1/2 hr before sunrise to 1/2 hour after sunset.

Draws unwanted attention in the wrong places, as you might expect, so use common sense of course.

No need to lock a non-restricted if you're transporting it.

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[trimmer21]

I agree trimmer21, reasonable should count for something. I have an old Zulu shotgun that has an extra wide trigger guard so it make it almost impossible to close a trigger lock on it in order to disable it, so I was removing the firing pin to disable it for safe storage, I was advised by a firearm instructor, that was not one of the parameters the law describes as a means of disabling a firearm for legal storage. What do you think?


You don’t stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

If it's an antique Zulu built before 1898,it doesn't matter. Technically,it's not a firearm under the Firearms Act. Just to be clear,long guns of any vintage do not need a trigger lock as long as they're stored unloaded in a cabinet,closet or room which can't be easily broken in to. As for your Zulu,it's a beautiful wall gun hanging over a fire place. I'd love to see pics if you have any.

[Deer Wrastler]

You can drive around with it in the seat beside you and the cartridges in your pocket if like. As long as it's between the hours of 1/2 hr before sunrise to 1/2 hour after sunset.

Draws unwanted attention in the wrong places, as you might expect, so use common sense of course.

No need to lock a non-restricted if you're transporting it.

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You can have any unrestricted in your car not locked and unloaded at any time of day. 1/2 hour before and after sunset is only for hunting. Otherwise you are just driving around and "transporting" firearms and can do so any time of day.

[GW11]

You can have any unrestricted in your car not locked and unloaded at any time of day. 1/2 hour before and after sunset is only for hunting. Otherwise you are just driving around and "transporting" firearms and can do so any time of day.

Thanks DW, I didn't specify that in my post, but a hunting situation was what I was implying.

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[Deer Wrastler]

Thanks DW, I didn't specify that in my post, but a hunting situation was what I was implying.

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Figured as much lol

[Gun Nut]

If it's an antique Zulu built before 1898,it doesn't matter. Technically,it's not a firearm under the Firearms Act. Just to be clear,long guns of any vintage do not need a trigger lock as long as they're stored unloaded in a cabinet,closet or room which can't be easily broken in to. As for your Zulu,it's a beautiful wall gun hanging over a fire place. I'd love to see pics if you have any.

Actually I don’t have any pictures, but I'll check with my daughter to see if she can come up with some, she is the family photographer .


You don’t stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut