Second rut timing

[onelessarrow]

I would love to see breeding in October if you can show it. I've looked forever and cant find it and most deer biologists that I've studied say Novembers the start.
The breeding of does in October would put the gestation period for fawn birth in April. That would result in extremely low birthrate due to poor weather condition.

[Sam Menard]

I would love to see breeding in October if you can show it. I've looked forever and cant find it and most deer biologists that I've studied say Novembers the start.
The breeding of does in October would put the gestation period for fawn birth in April. That would result in extremely low birthrate due to poor weather condition.

It’s a slow ramp up towards the peak breeding that happens in mid-November and tapers off later in the month. The farther you go before or after peak breeding, the fewer does involved. I’m not saying that early breeding is significant but it happens.

[Sam Menard]

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I had never heard of Ken Nordberg until a couple of weeks ago and am just starting to review some of his material. Interestingly, I discovered that he isn’t a biologist but a dentist with a passion for deer and deer hunting. Although he claims to have conducted research, I don’t think that any of his work has been peer-reviewed or published in any scientific journals. I’m not saying this to discredit him, but am only pointing out that his findings may only be opinions.

Some of the big gurus of scientific research on deer and deer behaviour include Larry Marchington, James Kroll, Karl Miller, Aaron Moen, Valerius Geist, Harry Jacobson, Mickey Hellickson, and John Ozoga, just to name a few.

James Kroll writes for North American Whitetail magazine and John Ozoga writes for Deer and Deer Hunting magazine. Both write excellent articles and often cite the work carried out by the others. Well worth the read IMO.

[onelessarrow]

If we could verify an April birth that would confirm October breeding but I dont think the evidence exists.
There's evidence of July births though, which can confirm January breeding.
I currently have a doe and two doe fawns pretty active on a property I hunt, that's out of 7 does total that visit. Both fawns are quite big. I'm eagerly waiting and monitoring lol.
I have 4 different year class bucks that are regular visitors as well. They disappeared for a week and just showed back up Thursday night. Using the cell cam this year has made it a lot more interactive for scouting. They're great, it's been a lot of fun using it.
Sam, you reference a lot of great deer guru's. My favorite is deer and deer hunting. Was my first magazine subscription in my teens. Arguably the best publication magazine for deer hunters.

[marky.mark]

I run spypoints and tactacam reveals all year. The amount of knowledge I’ve gathered from those has been incredible. How different areas of the bush come alive at different times of the year. This week has been a quieter for me on cam. I just loaded up on apples one more time for this weeks muzzloader. Hopefully will bring them out in shooting times. Been nocturnal for a bit in my area.

[onelessarrow]

I run spypoints and tactacam reveals all year. The amount of knowledge I’ve gathered from those has been incredible. How different areas of the bush come alive at different times of the year. This week has been a quieter for me on cam. I just loaded up on apples one more time for this weeks muzzloader. Hopefully will bring them out in shooting times. Been nocturnal for a bit in my area.

Yeah they're pretty awesome.
I think back when I used to run a pocket full of trail timers, you'd tie a piece of string across the trail attached to a small clock to let me know what time any tall critter went by. Use to think that was pretty sophisticated . Lol

[oaknut]

Yeah they're pretty awesome.
I think back when I used to run a pocket full of trail timers, you'd tie a piece of string across the trail attached to a small clock to let me know what time any tall critter went by. Use to think that was pretty sophisticated . Lol

Hahaha, I remember those! I used to use them at my bear bait to see what time the first one was showing up. Never worked worth a damn.

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[Sam Menard]

Yeah they're pretty awesome.
I think back when I used to run a pocket full of trail timers, you'd tie a piece of string across the trail attached to a small clock to let me know what time any tall critter went by. Use to think that was pretty sophisticated . Lol

Pretty high tech stuff back in the day lol. I wonder if they ever helped anyone get a deer? Then came trail cameras that used film, we’ve come a long way,

[onelessarrow]

Lol, I do recall scrapping the ground of debris under the strings to help identify tracks but no I have no memory of whether they ever directly helped me to get one.
Oh yeah the camera films, almost forgot about that evolution.lol

[MikePal]

My first trail Cam....worth every penny just for the anticipation alone. Set it up and went back in 5 days, saw the film was full and then took it into the Photo shop, paid the premium to get it developed for the next day. The 24 hrs of anticipation was almost to much, picked them up when it opened, tore open the envelop in the store and with shaky hands I flipped thru 32 pics of a weed blowing in front of the camera. HaHa...

Imagine...now the pics are sent to your phone in real time...we've come a long way baby HaHa,