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December 2nd, 2020, 04:39 PM
#51

Originally Posted by
fishermccann
Even if he is shooting in , ' no discharge zone' , contrary to municipal discharge regulations? Would that not make you a ....poacher? I feed the deer over my back fence, that is over looking conservation lands. You want a shot at the nice 6 pointer that visits nightly? Forbidden zone. Same deal.
There is no offence of.....”poaching”.....
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December 2nd, 2020 04:39 PM
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December 2nd, 2020, 04:41 PM
#52

Originally Posted by
fishermccann
Ontario Hunting Regulations. You know the law we must follow when hunting in Ontario.. Please read the section, on firearms , it includes all bows, it is self explanatory. Your beef is with whomever wrote them , not me. When it comes to hunting and guns, I always follow the law, because I don't want to lose my privileges. That is correct, my privileges, not my right.
I don’t have to read anything about “firearms” and what is or is not a “firearm”! I’m pretty sure I’m well aware !!
“If you’re not a Liberal by twenty, you have no heart. If you’re not a Conservative by forty, you have no brain.”
-Winston Churchill
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December 2nd, 2020, 04:45 PM
#53
Obviously not, or you would be aware any bow is considered a firearm in Ontario, when being used for hunting. The regs state that if it is being used improperly in Ontario , you can be charged with firearms offences under the CC of Canada.
Last edited by fishermccann; December 2nd, 2020 at 04:47 PM.
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December 2nd, 2020, 04:48 PM
#54
pretty certain anyone can buy a crossbow or bow but you need a license and pass courses to attain a firearm
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December 2nd, 2020, 04:49 PM
#55

Originally Posted by
fishermccann
Obviously not, or you would be aware any bow is considered a firearm in Ontario, when being used for hunting.
That, we can agree on. However, you posted a specific CC ( that’s Criminal Code) offence of Dangerous use of a firearm. I’m telling you, that charge cannot be laid, as a bow is not a “firearm” under the CC......You apparently cannot grasp the difference between a Provincial Act( FWCA) and the CC ( Criminal Code ).
“If you’re not a Liberal by twenty, you have no heart. If you’re not a Conservative by forty, you have no brain.”
-Winston Churchill
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December 2nd, 2020, 04:52 PM
#56

Originally Posted by
marky.mark
pretty certain anyone can buy a crossbow or bow but you need a license and pass courses to attain a firearm
Exactly... hence no requirement to have a firearms licence, for a bow, because a bow is NOT a firearm for CC and FA regulations....
“If you’re not a Liberal by twenty, you have no heart. If you’re not a Conservative by forty, you have no brain.”
-Winston Churchill
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December 2nd, 2020, 04:53 PM
#57
People that were prohibited from possessing firearms for 10 years on impaired convictions, continued on hunting legally with bows.
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December 2nd, 2020, 04:56 PM
#58

Originally Posted by
rick_iles
That, we can agree on. However, you posted a specific CC ( that’s Criminal Code) offence of Dangerous use of a firearm. I’m telling you, that charge cannot be laid, as a bow is not a “firearm” under the CC......You apparently cannot grasp the difference between a Provincial Act( FWCA) and the CC ( Criminal Code ).
ME? Then why does it say you can be charged with CC offences , in the Ontario Hunting regs? In Ontario regs it states that while hunting with a bow in Ontario, it is considered a firearm? I did not write them.
Last edited by fishermccann; December 2nd, 2020 at 04:58 PM.
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December 2nd, 2020, 05:03 PM
#59

Originally Posted by
fishermccann
ME? Then why does it say you can be charged with CC offences , in the Ontario Hunting regs? I did not write them.
I already answered that ! Post the specific verbiage, in the Summary. Up until this year, COs did not have anything to do with the Firearms Act. Now, a Firearms Licence or other proof of accreditation must be produced upon demand by a CO, along with your Outdoors Card and applicable hunting licences.
So, now if you don’t have a firearms licence or other accreditation to allow you to possess a GUN, you are liable to other criminal charges. If you read the legislation this all relates to, you will see the MNRF now mentions GUN, not firearm, due to the different definitions between criminal law and provincial law....
“If you’re not a Liberal by twenty, you have no heart. If you’re not a Conservative by forty, you have no brain.”
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December 2nd, 2020, 05:27 PM
#60
I'd give up Rick. You are clearly correct, but its not sinking in for him.
And I would either mind my own business as well or if you really feel the need to do something do what MikeP suggested and let him know.
Last edited by FishHog; December 2nd, 2020 at 05:40 PM.