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    Quote Originally Posted by MikePal View Post
    ..the inconvenient truth about the Welfare cuts under the Harris government:





    https://www.fraserinstitute.org/site...ntReview_0.pdf
    The biggest political tragedy I witness in Canada, is Harper being replaced by a buffoon ... why? Because we need change???? For what??

    Some of those things stated by the Fraser Institute ... were real experiences for all of us. Domestic economy was strong, dollar strengthened to par with USD ... all the while the US housing industry crashed, while ours experience very little drop, and taxes for families went down over a couple of years, in a meaningful way, leaving us with more disposable income. And finally, although some will argue this point, he steered us through that recession, and managed to balance the budget by his last term ...

    So yeah, I guess he was doing so good, the ding/dong voters had to kick him out ... what a bunch of ungrateful brats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkB View Post
    The biggest political tragedy I witness in Canada, is Harper being replaced by a buffoon ... why? Because we need change???? For what??

    Some of those things stated by the Fraser Institute ... were real experiences for all of us. Domestic economy was strong, dollar strengthened to par with USD ... all the while the US housing industry crashed, while ours experience very little drop, and taxes for families went down over a couple of years, in a meaningful way, leaving us with more disposable income. And finally, although some will argue this point, he steered us through that recession, and managed to balance the budget by his last term ...

    So yeah, I guess he was doing so good, the ding/dong voters had to kick him out ... what a bunch of ungrateful brats.
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    For more than four decades, Canadian nationalist, publisher and best-selling author, Mel Hurtig, has been warning Canadians about the negative influences of the excessive corporate takeover of Canada, including the impacts of foreign ownership and so-called free-trade agreements.In this short but important book, Mel Hurtig turns his attention to the devastating impact that the Stephen Harper government has had on Canada, radically altering the democratic, social and economic fabric of the country. He shows how Stephen Harper's single-minded pursuit of big oil and the tar sands, at a time when the world must take dramatic action to arrest climate change, has inflicted enormous damage on our country and on our international reputation. He contends that Harper rose to power with an agenda so contrary to Canadian principles and values, that the only way he could pursue it was through a takeover of Canadian democracy.Mel Hurtig is the legendary Edmonton bookseller, publisher and creator of The Canadian Encyclopedia who became a political activist, then an author in 1991 with his huge bestseller The Betrayal of Canada. He is also the author of Pay the Rent or Feed the Kids, The Vanishing Country, Rushing to Armageddon and The Truth About Canada. He is an Officer of the Order of Canada, and has received many honorary degrees and other honours. He lives in Vancouver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilroy View Post
    The Arrogant Autocrat


    For more than four decades, Canadian nationalist, publisher and best-selling author, Mel Hurtig, has been warning Canadians about the negative influences of the excessive corporate takeover of Canada, including the impacts of foreign ownership and so-called free-trade agreements.In this short but important book, Mel Hurtig turns his attention to the devastating impact that the Stephen Harper government has had on Canada, radically altering the democratic, social and economic fabric of the country. He shows how Stephen Harper's single-minded pursuit of big oil and the tar sands, at a time when the world must take dramatic action to arrest climate change, has inflicted enormous damage on our country and on our international reputation. He contends that Harper rose to power with an agenda so contrary to Canadian principles and values, that the only way he could pursue it was through a takeover of Canadian democracy.Mel Hurtig is the legendary Edmonton bookseller, publisher and creator of The Canadian Encyclopedia who became a political activist, then an author in 1991 with his huge bestseller The Betrayal of Canada. He is also the author of Pay the Rent or Feed the Kids, The Vanishing Country, Rushing to Armageddon and The Truth About Canada. He is an Officer of the Order of Canada, and has received many honorary degrees and other honours. He lives in Vancouver.
    Gil, come on ... sounds like Mel is disillusioned ... Harper was about growing small business here, giving more disposable income to families (which actually happened, I witnessed that myself) so that they can stimulate local economy. He's pointing at his ambition to develop tar sands and calling that a problem?? ... and then Trudeau is allowed to buy a friggin pipeline project for billions more (just to have it roadblocked for months) and it's okay for Trudeau???? The same guy that has promised all kinds of CO2 emission reductions and paid MY money to Europe ... and CO2 levels are higher now than before??? And he gives Loblaws money to change their freezer compressors ... Loblaws?? Who was fined for price fixing bread!!!! Staple food for those struggling to make ends meet???

    Harper was WAY, WAY, WAY, WAY, WAY, WAY better than Turdeau. Like you cannot even put them on the same football field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkB View Post
    Gil, come on ... sounds like Mel is disillusioned ...
    Your right old Mel was a "bourgeois nationalist"..ie: Marxist

    A good review of his "Bathroom Book" :

    Mel Hurtig’s new compendium is what I call “bathroom reading” in the noblest sense of the word. It is more serious than “beach reading,” which seldom rises above the level of potboiler detective fiction and moist romance. At the same time, it requires less than full intellectual concentration. Encyclopedias of amusing subjects, books of lists or records and anthologies of very short stories are iconic in this genre.

    In The Truth about Canada, Mel Hurtig has assembled forty chapters of about eight pages each (plus a preface, a conclusion, a glossary, two appendices and twenty-two pages of endnotes). The results are largely derivative and somewhat disorganized. There is little in terms of any coherent narrative or explanatory principles. History and theory are absent. Perhaps, however, the book’s apparent weaknesses are its strengths, for it is are great fun—especially for those with an unwholesomely gloomy sense of humour—and a great challenge to anyone who continues to wish that Canada might one day be “about” something, rather than a ragtag appendage to a declining American Empire with the singular oddity of having more French-speakers than Louisiana.

    Mel Hurtig’s great forte is his distinction as one of the last of the liberal, bourgeois Canadian nationalists. He follows neatly in the splendidly idealistic tradition of Walter Gordon, who saw nationalism as an essentially positive and progressive force, but refrained from associating it with domestic issues of social class and international issues of imperialism. He is certainly no political radical; yet, at a time when all realistic and selfish impulses dismiss national loyalty (except in the language familiar from the likes of General Rick Hillier, pursuing patriotism in lock-step with US foreign policy), he plainly loves his country. Moreover, his emerging concerns with poverty and other matters of social justice reveal some development in his understanding of the limits of liberalism in terms of the pursuit of economic, as well as formal democratic, rights.

    To many, “bourgeois nationalism” has long been a discredited ideology—most explicitly because it has been disowned by the bourgeoisie.” Most Canadian nationalists in living memory have been either “tories” (mainly of the distinctively “red” hue) or profoundly “democratic” socialists. This is as it should be. Canadian business interests have aggressively pursued American markets. Canadian consumers have been eager to acquire American goods and services cheaply. Accordingly, free market economics have dominated continentalist opinion for the whole of Canadian history, and have been held at bay mainly because of what George Grant famously called the “ridiculous project” of seeking to build a genuinely conservative society on the same continent as the greatest technological empire that the world has seen to date.
    http://collegequarterly.ca/2008-vol1.../doughty2.html
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    Where was Trudeau a week or so ago, oh yah thats right he was in China making trade deals with communists. Trudeau supporting a communist regime and the largest polluters on earth. Trudeau is going to stop climate change with a carbon tax. The tax dollars will be used to buy cool clean air for Canada...lol.
    Gilroy your hero Trudeau is the one ruining democracy. And your other hero Biden is responsible for more than 2000 deaths a day down south.
    Both are complete failures at leadership

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    Quote Originally Posted by canadaman30 View Post
    Where was Trudeau a week or so ago, oh yah thats right he was in China making trade deals with communists.
    Maybe he was there trying to figure out how in a Freetrade deal we buy 3x more goods than we sell to China..

    Canada imports from China was US$56.53 Billion during 2019, according to the United Nations COMTRADE database on international trade.
    Canada exports to China was US$17.49 Billion during 2019,

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkB View Post
    Harper was WAY, WAY, WAY, WAY, WAY, WAY better than Turdeau. Like you cannot even put them on the same football field.
    Well you could ...Harper was a great Quarter back and well Trudeau ran along the sidelines as the team mascot dressed in Silly Socks...HaHa..

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikePal View Post
    Well you could ...Harper was a great Quarter back and well Trudeau ran along the sidelines as the team mascot dressed in Silly Socks...HaHa..
    Which team is he cheering for though... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZHUhfmlzXk

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    Can someone enlighten me on something that I've never really admittedly understood? Why as a country do we have to suffer economically for all of this climate control stuff? Are we not just a drop in a bucket of water when it comes to pollution? Maybe I'm ignorant to the fact, but I just can't wrap my head around why se should be economically challenged for something the other say 80% of the polluters are ignoring?
    This isn't a test run................Enjoy er'.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by canadaman30 View Post
    Where was Trudeau a week or so ago, oh yah thats right he was in China making trade deals with communists. Trudeau supporting a communist regime and the largest polluters on earth. Trudeau is going to stop climate change with a carbon tax. The tax dollars will be used to buy cool clean air for Canada...lol.
    Gilroy your hero Trudeau is the one ruining democracy. And your other hero Biden is responsible for more than 2000 deaths a day down south.
    Both are complete failures at leadership
    Pretty amazing you are blaming Biden when he is not yet in office.I suppose Trump sitting on his hands for the last nine months means nothing to you.

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