Should the coronavirus vaccine be mandatory

[Deer Wrastler]

The new underground business will be making fake vaccination cards of which I would be the first to purchase.

If businesses want to restrict access to only people who have a vaccination card they are going to see even more record losses. I would wager that the percent of people who do not get the vaccine will be around the same percent of their profit margins.

A rushed vaccine for a virus that only affects less then 1 percent? I think Ill take my odds. The potential side effects of the vaccine are greater and more severe then the average persons covid symptoms or lack thereof.

And yet again in 2020, the cure is worse then the cause.

[JBen]

Invermectin.
Wide spread use in Latin America since what late spring???
.Latin America also some of the worst Covid numbers. The two don’t add up. If it’s even half as effective as the Dr makes it out be. Covid would be dying out by now.

Another way to look at it.
Driving your car is a risk. Yet we all do anyways. In fact, many anti Vaxers, anti maskers will use those arguements or similar about Covid. Aka what’s the big deal. More people die from a,b,c. So I might ask anti vaxers what’s the big deal. There are far deadlier things.

A friend shared a great meme, I wish I could copy it here. It’s a picture of 4 guys in a room watching a TV. Quite visible are bags of chips, processed crap, tons of booze, cigarettes, bongs, and maybe even some coke.
“You won’t vaccinate but you have no problems ingesting dozens of other toxins daily”


Letting Covid destroy peoples health and economies is a choice. A risk if you will, that’s obviously not working.

Pick your poison.
Covid and trashed economies. Or a vaccine.

Seems easy to me.

[onelessarrow]

I think I'll take the actual word of the Doctor who's been on the front line for the entire covid-19 response over the word of any media outlet today on therapeutics.
Our media early on treated most therapeutics that might show promise as the second coming of poison. That, on its face is disgusting.
I have a hard time following the so called knowledge providers that would pedal such BS lies in the middle of their pandemic.
Out of 170 countries I counted, we're tied for 25th for the highest death rate in the world.
Therapeutics and the death rate have been a dirty little secret from the beginning. Been asking why since day one.
The death rate should have been the focal point and worked backwards from there.
Suppression is a pretty powerful thing and they're using it because it's working.

[MikePal]

Well so much for that...I can see the % of people who will take the vaccine plummeting.. HaHa..

LONDON -- U.K. regulators said Wednesday that people who have a "significant history" of allergic reactions shouldn't receive the new Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine while they investigate two adverse reactions that occurred on the first day of the country's mass vaccination program.

"As is common with new vaccines the MHRA have advised on a precautionary basis that people with a significant history of allergic reactions do not receive this vaccination after two people with a history of significant allergic reactions responded adversely yesterday," Powis said in a statement. "Both are recovering well."

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/u-k-inv...shot-1.5223107

[impact]

Well so much for that...I can see the % of people who will take the vaccine plummeting.. HaHa..



https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/u-k-inv...shot-1.5223107

"The medical regulatory agency also said vaccinations should not be carried out in facilities that don't have resuscitation equipment."

Allergic reaction is a broad definition. They have not tested the vaccine and its interaction with other drugs. Blood pressure medication, diabetes, etc. nor long term effects. It is a no-no for fertility and pregnancies. Children under 16 are not to take it.
Humans are now guinea pigs in a rush to make billions in revenues. Big Pharma is protected from lawsuits. I will stay at the back of the line and wait for a more traditional vaccine roll out.

[GW11]

Wouldn't "on other medications" apply to the vast majority of people who are most in need of this vaccine?

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[fishfood]

They probably picked healthy people for the study and not on medications .

I have some allergies some scented soaps and penicillin but when I last did an alergey test was in school and it was the entire paper filled with about 30 different lol. But I only notice the strawberry soaps a few scented soaps get a little bit of a rash .

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[impact]

They probably picked healthy people for the study and not on medications .


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That is correct.

4.5 Interaction with other medicinal products and other forms of interaction
No interaction studies have been performed.

https://assets.publishing.service.go...fessionals.pdf

[Snowwalker]

Wouldn't "on other medications" apply to the vast majority of people who are most in need of this vaccine?

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You sir can understand the written word..be careful the overlords may not like that..

[Jakezilla]

Jben,

That article you posted reeks of "Big Pharma Shill". I've said my piece earlier in this thread and don't have the time to pick it apart, but here are a few highlights.

"this type of technology is not entirely new. It has been studied and used in cancer research. They have been making mRNA vaccines and studying them to specifically target proteins on tumor cells and train your immune system to then destroy the tumor. In this case, it is not a vaccine in the preventive sense, as it is targeted to a tumor that you already have. It is not currently widespread because it has to be custom made for each tumor. But, it has been "around the block" for a while now."

mRNA technology has been around but have never been tested on humans.

"FDA to even look at the work done prior to approving Phase 1 trials. Because of the urgent nature of this, it was essentially put on the top of the wait pile, which cut out months of waiting, but did not cut any corners. Between the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines (both mRNA, with a slightly different delivery system), they were tested in 37,000 people in Phase 3 (and an additional 37,000 received a placebo). That is on par with, if not better than the vaccines currently available."

It may be on par with other vaccines available but this is not a traditional vaccination. This a a false equivalency.

"Aren't I concerned that the FDA is about to approve it, and there may be side effects that haven't been seen yet? Nope on this one too. We know from decades of vaccine research, since you typically just get 1, 2 or 3 doses and then you are done with it, that nearly all side effects from vaccines occur in the first 6 weeks. Like other vaccines, minor side effects may occur(soreness at injection site, muscle aches, fever). Severe adverse reactions are extremely rare, and again, occur quickly if they are going to occur at all."

Again this is not a traditional vaccination again ... Apples to Oranges.

"And even if I don't die from it, I could have long term lung damage and other issues that affect my quality of life"

I addressed this earlier in the thread, where's the evidence? If there was any real evidence of this back up by legitimate studies you can bet they would parade them out in front of everyone. Instead it's alluded to in passing just to put the fear in everyone and let there imaginations work.

"We have now surpassed 15 million documented Covid cases in our country (5 million of which were in the last 30 days) and over 2,000 people are dying per day. I do not plan on making the post shareable, as I don't need militant anti-vaxers tracking me down."

Numbers based on flawed PCR tests and death counts that are very questionable.

Want to get people to start questioning vaccinations? Start pushing an experimental vaccine on them.

Remember.....Thalidomide was "safe" and FDA approved also.

Don't get caught in the COVID trap....defending the indefensible.

Rolling this out on young females of child bearing age is indefensible.
Lockdowns are indefensible.
Mandatory masks are indefensible.
Mandatory vaccines are indefensible.

There is no quality science available to justify any of these things. Everything I have seen to justify these things is junk science. It looks good on the surface but when you dig into it you see the flaws and poor method.

The unidimensional approach to COVID is insane. Only the opinion of health professionals seem count, instead of engaging economists and historians to get a little perspective on the problem.