New COVID strain, 70% easier to spread.

[MikePal]

Healthcare professionals saying it is at 100% has been ongoing since even before the big McGuinty/Wynne cuts.

I can back that..My wife was an ER nurse for almost 20 yrs...15yrs in the Trauma Unit at the Ottawa Civic Hospital. She says the norm is 90+ % not uncommon to be have 120% with beds in the halls.

The Ottawa Hospital (Civic plus General Campus) have 56 ICU beds for a pollution of 1.2 million. Adding x6 ICU patients puts a strain on the system.

Any surge of patients requiring Acute Care cannot be handled by our Health Care System.

[JBen]

Way back in March, which seems like a lifetime ago. A friend, who is a GP ( specialty Geriatric's) was asked to head up a Covid Team. They were going to set up a "ward" at Ontario Shores Whitby. It's a mental health facility. It was to be her in charge, and if I recall two RNs and two RPNs. They did not get hit hard. But they were really just supposed to be palliative. Worded differently, the place people were sent to die, so the ICUs could be for those with a chance.

Both my fiance and I have had to go to Lakeridge Health "recently" for cancer screening stuff. It was a ghost town relatively speaking. I have heard of people who had had pretty important surgeries, put off, re-scheduled more than once. And in fact, when it looked like I had Cancer again this time last year. Certain test got pushed way back.

IMO, the "threat" to various health units is real. The problem as ever is elsewhere (see paragraph above) and a serious lack of funds. That, and well if you have a problem in one region, that doesnt mean it exist elsewhere and you need to bring the hammer down everywhere. Furthermore, while some in the unions squawked back in the Spring, Ford with co-operation changed the collective agreement, such that hospital boards could change staffing levels. Send people where they were needed and they had no say. See also many in healthcare somewhat idle since April.

So not sure what the problem is.

[Sharon]

fishfood: I'm not going to argue with my brother-in-law the Dr.

[mosquito]

Some info. on the new variant..... among the points "no worsening"
https://www.facebook.com/45136900840...26160175697126

[impact]

I can back that..My wife was an ER nurse for almost 20 yrs...15yrs in the Trauma Unit at the Ottawa Civic Hospital. She says the norm is 90+ % not uncommon to be have 120% with beds in the halls.

The Ottawa Hospital (Civic plus General Campus) have 56 ICU beds for a pollution of 1.2 million. Adding x6 ICU patients puts a strain on the system.

Any surge of patients requiring Acute Care cannot be handled by our Health Care System.

I can confirm as well. Decades working in hospitals and quite common to hear over the PA system "At Capacity"
Ambulances are then redirected to another regional hospital.

Hundreds of billions spent chasing an ever changing virus where that money could have been better spent treating all causes of ailments. But, that is not the agenda.

[JBen]

Hundreds of billions spent chasing an ever changing virus where that money could have been better spent treating all causes of ailments. But, that is not the agenda.[
Hundreds of billions spent chasing an ever changing virus where that money could have been better spent treating all causes of ailments. But, that is not the agenda.

Nothing is free and everything has a cost. Heck not even the air is free anymore.

So many things we likely should have done differently. Some definitely hindsight. M. Others just leave you shaking your head. Consider this.

2008/SARS
Pretty bad, and while we have yet fully recovered. The deficit hangover isn’t related to that.

This?
Feck, the obvious damage, ripple effects, years and years before people recover. The money that might have saved tens of thousands of lives?

Covid bad as far as I’m concerned. But So many other things we could have done.

Ontario alone.
40B deficit?
Take an army base, turn it into a town. Build a bunch of stuff. Move LTC caged rats and let them live nicely with some dignity and others.

Hundreds of Billions?

[3030]

and the massive loss in tax revenue

[MikePal]

IT'S HEEERE !!!!

to no ones surprise

[impact]

IT'S HEEERE !!!!

to no ones surprise

One only has to follow the road map:
Gordana Cica Laban
Nicole Wick Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On Saturday, October 10, 2020 1:38 PM,


The road map and aim was set out by the PMO and is as follows:

- Phase in secondary lock down restrictions on a rolling basis, starting with major metropolitan areas first and expanding outward. Expected by November 2020. (DONE)
- Rush the acquisition of (or construction of) isolation facilities across every province and territory. Expected by December 2020. (DONE)
- Daily new cases of COVID-19 will surge beyond capacity of testing, including increases in COVID related deaths following the same growth curves. Expected by end of November 2020. (NOPE)
- Complete and total secondary lock down (much stricter than the first and second rolling phase restrictions). Expected by end of December 2020 - early January 2021 (DONE)
- Reform and expansion of the unemployment program to be transitioned into the universal basic income program. Expected by Q1 2021.
- Projected COVID-19 mutation and/or co-infection with secondary virus (referred to as COVID-21) leading to a third wave with much higher mortality rate and higher rate of infection. Expected by February 2021.
- Daily new cases of COVID-21 hospitalizations and COVID-19 and COVID-21 related deaths will exceed medical care facilities capacity. Expected Q1 - Q2 2021.
- Enhanced lock down restrictions (referred to as Third Lock Down) will be implemented. Full travel restrictions will be imposed (including inter-province and inter-city). Expected Q2 2021.
- Transitioning of individuals into the universal basic income program. Expected mid Q2 2021.
- Projected supply chain break downs, inventory shortages, large economic instability. Expected late Q2 2021.
- Deployment of military personnel into major metropolitan areas as well as all major roadways to establish travel checkpoints. Restrict travel and movement. Provide logistical support to the area. Expected by Q3 2021.

[fratri]

One only has to follow the road map:
Gordana Cica Laban
Nicole Wick Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On Saturday, October 10, 2020 1:38 PM,


The road map and aim was set out by the PMO and is as follows:

- Phase in secondary lock down restrictions on a rolling basis, starting with major metropolitan areas first and expanding outward. Expected by November 2020. (DONE)
- Rush the acquisition of (or construction of) isolation facilities across every province and territory. Expected by December 2020. (DONE)
- Daily new cases of COVID-19 will surge beyond capacity of testing, including increases in COVID related deaths following the same growth curves. Expected by end of November 2020. (NOPE)
- Complete and total secondary lock down (much stricter than the first and second rolling phase restrictions). Expected by end of December 2020 - early January 2021 (DONE)
- Reform and expansion of the unemployment program to be transitioned into the universal basic income program. Expected by Q1 2021.
- Projected COVID-19 mutation and/or co-infection with secondary virus (referred to as COVID-21) leading to a third wave with much higher mortality rate and higher rate of infection. Expected by February 2021.
- Daily new cases of COVID-21 hospitalizations and COVID-19 and COVID-21 related deaths will exceed medical care facilities capacity. Expected Q1 - Q2 2021.
- Enhanced lock down restrictions (referred to as Third Lock Down) will be implemented. Full travel restrictions will be imposed (including inter-province and inter-city). Expected Q2 2021.
- Transitioning of individuals into the universal basic income program. Expected mid Q2 2021.
- Projected supply chain break downs, inventory shortages, large economic instability. Expected late Q2 2021.
- Deployment of military personnel into major metropolitan areas as well as all major roadways to establish travel checkpoints. Restrict travel and movement. Provide logistical support to the area. Expected by Q3 2021.

Looking forward to that one................ Would like to see how it plays out....