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    An interesting study on asymptomatic transmission. We are being played.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-19802-w

    The citywide nucleic acid screening of SARS-CoV-2 infection in Wuhan recruited nearly 10 million people, and found no newly confirmed cases with COVID-19. The detection rate of asymptomatic positive cases was very low, and there was no evidence of transmission from asymptomatic positive persons to traced close contacts. There were no asymptomatic positive cases in 96.4% of the residential communities.

    Previous studies have shown that asymptomatic individuals infected with SARS-CoV-2 virus were infectious3, and might subsequently become symptomatic. Compared with symptomatic patients, asymptomatic infected persons generally have low quantity of viral loads and a short duration of viral shedding, which decrease the transmission risk of SARS-CoV-2. In the present study, virus culture was carried out on samples from asymptomatic positive cases, and found no viable SARS-CoV-2 virus. All close contacts of the asymptomatic positive cases tested negative, indicating that the asymptomatic positive cases detected in this study were unlikely to be infectious.

    There was a low repositive rate in recovered COVID-19 patients in Wuhan. Results of virus culturing and contract tracing found no evidence that repositive cases in recovered COVID-19 patients were infectious, which is consistent with evidence from other sources. A study in Korea found no confirmed COVID-19 cases by monitoring 790 contacts of 285 repositive cases. The official surveillance of recovered COVID-19 patients in China also revealed no evidence on the infectiousness of repositive cases. Considering the strong force of infection of COVID-19, it is expected that the number of confirmed cases is associated with the risk of being infected in communities. We found that asymptomatic positive rates in different districts of Wuhan were correlated with the prevalence of previously confirmed cases. This is in line with the temporal and spatial evolution (especially the long-tailed characteristic) of infectious diseases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushmoose View Post
    Canadians of convenience! I'm sure the majority of them don't speak english or french? They say "home is where the heart is". Let them rot there as they serve no useful purpose sucking the benefits of Canadian Citizenship while living abroad.
    According to the census most are living in the United States more than 3 x more than Hong Kong-China. So I guess that they speak English.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jakezilla View Post
    An interesting study on asymptomatic transmission. We are being played.
    That's excellent..Thanks for posting it. I wish I understood even 10% of what was being presented, thankfully they have summaries

    It something that is not even mentioned by our Provincial or Federal Health Care talking heads.

    The key to this pandemic will be the antibodies.....our Government needs to start testing them.
    Last edited by MikePal; December 28th, 2020 at 03:16 PM.

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    Well, speak of the devil in disguise.,,,,, He's here.....

    "The Common Trust Network, an initiative by Geneva-based nonprofit The Commons Project and the World Economic Forum, has partnered with several airlines including Cathay Pacific, JetBlue, Lufthansa, Swiss Airlines, United Airlines and Virgin Atlantic, as well as hundreds of health systems across the United States and the government of Aruba."

    "Part of ensuring wide usage for vaccine passports is accounting for the large subset of the global population that still doesn't use or have access to smartphones. A few companies within the COVID-19 Credentials Initiative are also developing a smart card that strikes a middle ground between the traditional paper vaccine certificates and an online version that's easier to store and reproduce."

    "It's also unclear how effective the vaccines are in stopping the transmission of the virus, says Dr. Julie Parsonnet, an infectious disease specialist at Stanford University. So while a vaccine passport app will show that you've received the shot, it may not be a guarantee that you safely attend an event or get on a flight."

    https://abc7chicago.com/covid-vaccin...npass/9128169/

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    This health pass nonsense should be resisted. This isn't over once you get vaccinated and get your covid papers. Something else will come that you need another vaccination for and then another. It will never end, it's a system of control for the governments and a cash cow for big pharma.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jakezilla View Post
    This health pass nonsense should be resisted. This isn't over once you get vaccinated and get your covid papers. Something else will come that you need another vaccination for and then another. It will never end, it's a system of control for the governments and a cash cow for big pharma.
    How do we go about resisting?

    The Feds know it is a Human rights violation but are putting pressure on commercial establishments to deny entry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by impact View Post
    How do we go about resisting?

    The Feds know it is a Human rights violation but are putting pressure on commercial establishments to deny entry.
    That's what we have to figure out. If we still have a free market after this that should drive some of it.

    How many people aren't going to go to concerts or sports events if they need to be vaccinated or need papers?

    How many people aren't going to fly if they have to be vaccinated or need papers?

    What about vacation destinations that rely on tourism?

    Can these markets take a 25% hit? It could be less than that or it could be more. I think it will be at least that.

    None of this can be implemented until everyone has access to the vaccine so that's probably a couple years down the line. Any business that starts demanding papers is probably cutting it's own throat. There are some businesses talking the talk right now but it is virtue signaling. When it comes down to it, money talks and BS walks. These businesses will probably look to the already broke governments to cover the shortfall. Government bailouts can never replace a healthy free market.

    The other thing that needs to happen for this to work is they need to drag these lockdowns out for a couple years and probably through an election in most countries.

    There will also be privacy issues that will have to work their way through the courts. Not just our legal system but other legal systems around the world. Everyone needs to be on board for this to work.

    Resist through boycott and with your vote.
    Last edited by Jakezilla; December 28th, 2020 at 07:17 PM.
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    Yes, elimination of private small businesses has been the objective from day one. Hence, the surgical approach to the lockdowns. Ordering online for the big corporations is their workaround. Hard to boycott this business model when your onsite presence is not necessary.

    Do not forget that the Global agenda has a huge green part to it. So, a decrease in travel or going live to sporting events is a bonus to them.

    I always wondered why a 60" TV was only $500. How could they possibly manufacture and make money? Now I understand.......a lost leader.

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    Just a reminder - go back and read the leaked "Liberal Strategic Planning Committee Memo" - COVID 21 - Q1 Jan 2021. Its all there.... the roadmap... to the great reset.
    Mark Snow, Leader Of The, Ontario Libertarian Party

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    Another good paper by a Canadian scientist.

    https://www.researchgate.net/publica...OVID-19_policy

    Highlights.


    Science is being suppressed for political and financial gain. Covid-19 has unleashed state corruption on a grand scale, and it is harmful to public health.[ref] Politicians and industry are responsible for this opportunistic embezzlement. So too are scientists and health experts. The pandemic has revealed how the medical-political complex can be manipulated in an emergency—a time when it is even more important to safeguard science.

    On PCR tests

    These are severe design errors, since the test cannot discriminate between the whole virus and viral fragments. The test cannot be used as a diagnostic for SARS-viruses.

    Furthermore, the absence of the HE gene in both SARS-CoV1 and SARS-CoV-2 makes this gene the ideal negative control to exclude other coronaviruses. The Corman-Drosten paper does not contain this negative control, nor does it contain any other negative controls. The PCR test in the Corman-Drosten paper therefore contains neither a unique positive control nor a negative control to exclude the presence of other coronaviruses. This is another major design flaw which classifies the test as unsuitable for diagnosis.


    Clearly, the RT-PCR test used around the world, on its own, is in effect garbage. It produces large amounts of “positives” that do not correspond to any viable infectious virus, SARS-CoV-2 or other. This is only partly remedied if laboratories limit themselves to Ct<30, not to mention the large potential for other bad laboratory practices in the field.

    Add to this the public health dishonesty of fabricating a new definition of what constitutes a “case”. A “case” is defined in medicine as an active, symptomatic and diagnosed infection. Not any more: Any “positive” in the faulty RT-PCR “test” is now counted as a “case”. The mass RT-PCR testing campaign of the general asymptomatic population, which has no clinical or epidemiological utility, thereby feeds media propaganda of fear, and disastrous consequences: Garbage-RT-PCR → meaningless-“cases” → propaganda → arbitrary-measures/great-harm → popularity of leaders.

    On masks

    On 18 November 2020, Bundgaard et al. [30] published their large randomized controlled trial (RCT) of participants selected from the general Danish population. In their words:

    A total of 3030 participants were randomly assigned to the recommendation to wear masks, and 2994 were assigned to control; 4862 completed the study. Infection with SARS-CoV-2 occurred in 42 participants recommended masks (1.8%) and 53 control participants (2.1%). The between-group difference was −0.3 percentage point (95% CI, −1.2 to 0.4 percentage point; P = 0.38) (odds ratio, 0.82 [CI, 0.54 to 1.23]; P = 0.33). Multiple imputation accounting for loss to follow-up yielded similar results. Although the difference observed was not statistically significant, the 95% CIs are compatible with a 46% reduction to a 23% increase in infection. (Abstract / Results) […] a recommendation to wear a surgical mask when outside the home among others did not reduce, at conventional levels of statistical significance, incident SARS-CoV-2 infection compared with no mask recommendation. […] The face masks provided to participants were high-quality surgical masks with a filtration rate of 98% ref]. (Discussion)


    To be clear, “95% CIs are compatible with a 46% reduction to a 23% increase in infection” means that, within the bounds of uncertainty, wearing a mask could have increased the likelihood of being infected by 23%. Such is the nature of relative risk evaluation, when the comparative impact on absolute risk is too miniscule to be detected.



    On the vaccines. I believe the ADE issue covers mRNA vaccines as well as traditional vaccines.

    On 13 July 2020, an important reality check was published by Arvin et al. [33] in the pages of the leading scientific journal Nature, in the form of an extensive “Perspective” (review). The paper, on careful reading, is a detailed exposé about human ignorance regarding artificial interference with the human immune system. Any student of science should conclude that “we mostly don’t know anything”. The authors state this in embellished form as [33]:

    Antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE) of disease is a general concern for the development of vaccines and antibody therapies because the mechanisms that underlie antibody protection against any virus have a theoretical potential to amplify the infection or trigger harmful immunopathology. This possibility requires careful consideration at this critical point in the pandemic of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), which is caused by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2). Here we review observations relevant to the risks of ADE of disease, and their potential implications for SARS-CoV-2 infection. At present, there are no known clinical findings, immunological assays or biomarkers that can differentiate any severe viral infection from immune-enhanced disease, whether by measuring antibodies, T cells or intrinsic host responses. In vitro systems and animal models do not predict the risk of ADE of disease, in part because protective and potentially detrimental antibody-mediated mechanisms are the same and designing animal models depends on understanding how antiviral host responses may become harmful in humans. The implications of our lack of knowledge are twofold. First, comprehensive studies are urgently needed to define clinical correlates of protective immunity against SARS-CoV-2. Second, because ADE of disease cannot be reliably predicted after either vaccination or treatment with antibodies—regardless of what virus is the causative agent—it will be essential to depend on careful analysis of safety in humans as immune interventions for COVID-19 move forward. (Abstract)

    Given the roll out that followed, this means that we have blindly embarked on a large-scale experiment on human subjects, without animal trials, without scientific transparency, without the possibility of informed consent, driven by pharmaceutical corporations that only want the good of humanity.
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