New measures. include 'Stay at Home orders"

[Ata83]

the only thing these lockdowns do, is increase country and individuals debts. for those out of work.

it is not lowering numbers of covid.

wonder what agenda it is supporting ... international debt cancellation ?

[Tigboy 304]

I bet she will not set foot in the US.

I very highly doubt it with the with the two administrations that will be running the US an Canada after the 20th. She is living a pretty posh lifestyle here in Canada at the moment and now with her family granted access to the country she is on easy street! I wonder if the same can be said for the two Michaels detained in China at the moment I guarantee it isn't.

[line052]

The "Great Reset", "Build Back Better", the 2 new coined phrases for socialism and communism.
1) Healthcare — Control healthcare and you control the people

2) Poverty — Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.

3) Debt — Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.

4) Gun Control — Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.

5) Welfare — Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income).

6) Education — Take control of what people read and listen to — take control of what children learn in school.

7) Religion — Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools.

[B]8) Class Warfare — Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor[/B]

the only thing these lockdowns do, is increase country and individuals debts. for those out of work.

it is not lowering numbers of covid.

wonder what agenda it is supporting ... international debt cancellation ?

[MikePal]

So, can I use curbside pick up or not ... what's the point of several merchants to stay open if a cop says anything they do is not essential?? Law says they are allowed to have curbside pickup, so that indicates that it is acceptable to provide goods? So is it essential or not?

I did curbside today at Home Hardware ; picked up a 30a D-SQ for a job I was doing...the CCT was 'essential' for completion of the job.
I'd take that to court if some Enforcement officer wanted to pick a fight over my interpretation.

The panel it was to be installed in, was for a house, which needed power.

You can see how complicated a definition of 'essential' can be...trickle up and everything hits a point of 'essential.'

[Fox]

You can see how complicated a definition of 'essential' can be...trickle up and everything hits a point of 'essential.'

That is why the provincial government is actually saying that they will not define it. If you are just lingering, hanging out, then you can be charged, if you are going to and from a location you should not have any issues. There are always the cops who don't care and will do what they want but that has not changed.

If you can say to yourself that the trip out is essential then it is, simple.

What I am happy about is the push back against dragging a whole family in to the grocery store when it is not necessary, in some cases it will be but often you do not have to bring your kids with you and spread around germs.

[MikePal]

What I am happy about is the push back against dragging a whole family in to the grocery store when it is not necessary, in some cases it will be but often you do not have to bring your kids with you and spread around germs.

During the 1st lockdown the grocery stores etc had to put up signs that said only '1' member per family...I thought that was brilliant to prevent just that.

Then I went for seniors shopping at 7:00am and there was no problem with the husband wife 'team' doing their groceries together. It was nice to see common sense being used.

They can't say 'essential' and and not define that...especially if fines are going to be issued. That is why the Cops are pushing back..why is it up to them to draw that line. Still haven't heard if the RCMP at the Airport asking those folks if their travel is essential .

[Fox]

During the 1st lockdown the grocery stores etc had to put up signs that said only '1' member per family...I thought that was brilliant to prevent just that.

Then I went for seniors shopping at 7:00am and there was no problem with the husband wife 'team' doing their groceries together. It was nice to see common sense being used.

They can't say 'essential' and and not define that...especially if fines are going to be issued. That is why the Cops are pushing back..why is it up to them to draw that line. Still haven't heard if the RCMP at the Airport asking those folks if their travel is essential .

Exactly, so nothing has really changed except they limited hours of certain stores, that is pretty much it.

I honestly did not know that we ever came out of the state of emergency.

[werner.reiche]

I read the Windsor police interpretation of it. They are really only cracking down on gatherings of people not in the same household (limit 5).
If you're out by yourself (or with people from the same address) you shouldn't be bothered by police, as long as you're in a place you're allowed to be.
If a facility - like a park or outdoor rink - is closed and you're using it, even by yourself - that would be a problem.

[impact]

I read the Windsor police interpretation of it. They are really only cracking down on gatherings of people not in the same household (limit 5).
If you're out by yourself (or with people from the same address) you shouldn't be bothered by police, as long as you're in a place you're allowed to be.
If a facility - like a park or outdoor rink - is closed and you're using it, even by yourself - that would be a problem.

Exactly, freedom of assembly is what they are after. Would not want a group of people standing together bad mouthing the government, now would we?

[FishHog]

it is not lowering numbers of covid.

So restricting people from getting together isn't lowering numbers of covid (a virus that is spread between people)?
As much as I agree with your other comment, don't negate everything you say by following it up with a statement that clearly is false. How effective it is a reducing spread could be argued, but to say it is doing nothing just is not logical.