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January 27th, 2021, 11:37 AM
#11

Originally Posted by
MikePal
Good training video: do NOT let them into your house and record the conversation..
Never let the police (RCMP, OPP, or Regional) enter your home unless they have a warrant. I have buddies that are coppers (Regional and OPP) and they say if a cop ever knocks on your door wanting to talk.........do NOT let them in your house. Grab a jacket and walk out to your front porch or driveway to have that discussion.
I am not anti cop.......there are some great guys and gals on the force doing a great job, but it is the people that give them their marching orders that I feel are corrupt and politically motivated.
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January 27th, 2021 11:37 AM
# ADS
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January 27th, 2021, 11:51 AM
#12
This would make our Liberal friends very happy
"This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013) OFAH Member
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January 27th, 2021, 12:26 PM
#13

Originally Posted by
410001661
Never let the police (RCMP, OPP, or Regional) enter your home unless they have a warrant. I have buddies that are coppers (Regional and OPP) and they say if a cop ever knocks on your door wanting to talk.........do NOT let them in your house. Grab a jacket and walk out to your front porch or driveway to have that discussion.
I am not anti cop.......there are some great guys and gals on the force doing a great job, but it is the people that give them their marching orders that I feel are corrupt and politically motivated.
Well the great thing abut marching orders is that they must be "lawful orders" and if they are unlawful will not stand up to judicial scrutiny.
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January 27th, 2021, 12:33 PM
#14
A friend of mine who girl friend retired after 30 years with the Police is anti cop go figure eh and yes she was a cop.

Originally Posted by
410001661
Never let the police (RCMP, OPP, or Regional) enter your home unless they have a warrant. I have buddies that are coppers (Regional and OPP) and they say if a cop ever knocks on your door wanting to talk.........do NOT let them in your house. Grab a jacket and walk out to your front porch or driveway to have that discussion.
I am not anti cop.......there are some great guys and gals on the force doing a great job, but it is the people that give them their marching orders that I feel are corrupt and politically motivated.
"This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013) OFAH Member
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January 27th, 2021, 12:59 PM
#15

Originally Posted by
trimmer21
Something seems really off with this. Police don't just show up with a "friendly reminder",especially,when no laws were broken. In all my time with law enforcement,not once,ever,did I ever see anyone approach someone with a "friendly reminder".
As you know, we are living in much different times since you were a LEO. Sadly, I believe this is a sign of things to come?
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January 27th, 2021, 01:14 PM
#16

Originally Posted by
Gilroy
Well the great thing abut marching orders is that they must be "lawful orders" and if they are unlawful will not stand up to judicial scrutiny.
So by extension of your logic marching orders most be "Lawful orders" because they stand up to judicial scrutiny. So I take it when the RCMP were rounding up native children to send away to residential schools that this was lawful and would stand up to judicial scrutiny? Another recent example of this would be the RCMP mishandling of the NS mass murder.
Just because something falls under lawful orders does not make it morally correct.
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January 27th, 2021, 01:49 PM
#17

Originally Posted by
MikePal
Good training video: do NOT let them into your house and record the conversation..
I should have added ..."an let them know they are being recorded" ..apparently that is also a requirement. The guy in the video did it perfectly.
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January 27th, 2021, 03:00 PM
#18

Originally Posted by
410001661
So by extension of your logic marching orders most be "Lawful orders" because they stand up to judicial scrutiny. So I take it when the RCMP were rounding up native children to send away to residential schools that this was lawful and would stand up to judicial scrutiny? Another recent example of this would be the RCMP mishandling of the NS mass murder.
Just because something falls under lawful orders does not make it morally correct.
Prime Minister Harper apologized on behalf of all Canadians for the treatment of the aboriginal peoples so I think you can take from that it was unlawful and there are many civil suits being settled to this affect today.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjYJ_TaJXHY
If the RCMP mishandled the NS mass murder with a suspect armed with a semi auto rifle, there is no indication and orders had been given to them to act unlawfully as far as I know. There may have been a lack of lawful orders or a lack of any orders?
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January 27th, 2021, 09:26 PM
#19
Well, I didn’t see any clothing or uniform that would identify them as RCMP, (and I imagine if he got a visit they’d be plainclothes anyway) or didn’t hear them offer up any ID...wouldn’t you think you’d ask that if two guys showed up at your door ?
Looks like it was filmed for YouTube by the reporter and two buddies of his.
“You have enemies ? Good. It means you have stood up for something, sometime in your life”: Winston Churchill
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January 27th, 2021, 09:45 PM
#20

Originally Posted by
410001661
Never let the police (RCMP, OPP, or Regional) enter your home unless they have a warrant. I have buddies that are coppers (Regional and OPP) and they say if a cop ever knocks on your door wanting to talk.........do NOT let them in your house. Grab a jacket and walk out to your front porch or driveway to have that discussion.
I am not anti cop.......there are some great guys and gals on the force doing a great job, but it is the people that give them their marching orders that I feel are corrupt and politically motivated.
I have similar sentiments, I respect police and appreciate them, however....
They can't enter your home if you don't open the door (without a warrant or other legal justification) "Just a talk" can turn into evidence against you in a hurry, especially with people trained to manipulate you into trusting them.
Last edited by dean.f; January 27th, 2021 at 09:49 PM.