Using a Handgun on Private Property

[Fox]

I personally know and worked with a fellow who has an approved range in his backyard. CFO stamped and approved. Not going to happen for the average Joe but if you know the right people!

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So if your business is a gunsmith or ammunition loader out of your house/garage, then you can have an approved 'R' range in you back yard.

I heard this before but apparently they must have been a business as they will not do it for individuals. I am not sure if this is a new rule or not.

[rippin_355]

I heard this before but apparently they must have been a business as they will not do it for individuals. I am not sure if this is a new rule or not.

No business, he was involved with a private gun club and new the current CFO.

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[Fox]

No business, he was involved with a private gun club and new the current CFO.

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I don't know what the case is but according to the CFOs office of Ontario a week ago there are no private ranges certified by the CFO in Ontario, he could have this setup as a business though. That is what I was told, I asked about it because I have access to land I could setup as a range.

There could have been a range setup with the municipality, this is different, they may have asked the CFO to check it out and give the safety stamp or approval.

[Gilroy]

I hate to be the Devil's advocate here but many of you on here belong to one or several or in some cases Many firearms rights organization's that I assume you pay good money to belong to.

Why are these types of questions not posed to them and a answer provided by a lawyer dealing in firearms legislation?

[rippin_355]

I don't know what the case is but according to the CFOs office of Ontario a week ago there are no private ranges certified by the CFO in Ontario, he could have this setup as a business though. That is what I was told, I asked about it because I have access to land I could setup as a range.

There could have been a range setup with the municipality, this is different, they may have asked the CFO to check it out and give the safety stamp or approval.

As said before he had no business and this is in his backyard. He knew the CFO at the time quite well. The government also said there were no Cougars in Ontario if that tells you anything!

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[trimmer21]

I hate to be the Devil's advocate here but many of you on here belong to one or several or in some cases Many firearms rights organization's that I assume you pay good money to belong to.

Why are these types of questions not posed to them and a answer provided by a lawyer dealing in firearms legislation?

That's a good question for Ian Runkle. IIRC,he has a YouTube video (Runkle of The Bailey) on this topic.

[rick_iles]

I hate to be the Devil's advocate here but many of you on here belong to one or several or in some cases Many firearms rights organization's that I assume you pay good money to belong to.

Why are these types of questions not posed to them and a answer provided by a lawyer dealing in firearms legislation?

Can’t get much better than directly from the CFO!!!! I’d still want it in writing, with a name attached !!

[Gun Nut]

Do what ever you want just don't post about it on a public forum but the law says "approved ranges only"

Common sense says you can not tell the difference in sound between a .22lr rifle or pistol or 44mag pistol or rifle so who will know if you keep your yap shut?....I wouldn't want to get caught transporting with out an ATT though that would be bad news....

The last handgun hunting season I believe was in 1973 and it was only with the help of OFAH that the government banned handgun hunting......Which started the slippery slope of useless gun control we slid down over that last 37yrs.....When they banned hunting with handguns it gave the anti's the argument they use still to this day "no one needs handguns its not like you can hunt with them".......If handgun's were still legal to hunt with and were still non-restricted like in 1969 we would have none of the BS "we know whats best" nanny state firearms laws we deal with today thanks OFAH.

Now fast forward to today and the OFAH has realized they screwed up and divided their membership they lost huge amounts of members over that and have slowly started getting them back purely because of their stance on the long gun registry. If the OFAH was smart they would get on side with the hunting organizations out west and started pressing the government to allow ATT's to be issued for hunting purposes so the MNR can instate new hunting seasons specifically for handguns.

I don't own handguns specifically because I can't hunt with them rather spend money on guns I can take to the field. But if we got new hunting seasons for them I would be the first inline to buy one I upgraded my pal to the RPAL just in-case this ever happens.

"If handgun's were still legal to hunt with and were still non-restricted like in 1969 we would have none of the BS."

Just to clarify things a bit, in Ontario you may still use handguns to hunt, hunting is regulated by the provincial government. It is the second part of your premise that takes handguns off the table for hunting. Under the federal government’s Firearm Act, you have the reclassification of handguns from being non-restricted to being restricted, which limits their use to approved shooting ranges. There are a few handgun, however, that fall outside the authority of the Firearm Act, and there is nothing apparently that prevents them from being used for hunting. . .
To my mind it makes no sense to prevent handguns from being used in hunting, if the government is at a total loss to prevent their illegal use by street gangs and organized criminals.
It makes about as much sense as having a screen hatch cover installed on a submarine. It is not the law abiding citizenry that the problem. .

You don’t stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

[Stu]

I know of several people that have CFO approved private restricted ranges on their property. My former employer had one on his property up until about two years ago.
The last permit to carry for hunting that I saw was one that a customer showed me was from 1971. He was never able to get it renewed after that.
From what I remember, Justin Silly Pants' father, Pierre used the FLQ crisis "October Crisis" of 1970 and initiating the War Measures Act to start making a lot of changes regarding firearms. I'm not saying that this action wasn't completely unwarranted, but the use of it to change the privileges of firearms ownership and use of them by the rest of Canada's innocent users was like Justin's use of Covid as The Great Reset.

[Gun Nut]

As said before he had no business and this is in his backyard. He knew the CFO at the time quite well. The government also said there were no Cougars in Ontario if that tells you anything!

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“The government also said there were no Cougars in Ontario if that tells you anything!”


Since raise the issue there are a few rumors going about as to what the government said about Cougars in Ontario. I can’t remember if it was the deer or the fisher cat populations that were getting a bit out of hand, and it was thought that Cougars were reintroduce to Ontario as a measure to control population numbers. The government denied this was ever done.
Another factor that crops up is, that Ontario was a range for the Eastern Cougar, a specie that was placed on the endangered list, so it maybe the government implied their was no Cougars, to afford there was not a wholesale stampede to hunt Cougars which might have resulted in the extinction of the Eastern Cougar’s. gene pool. If there are Cougars in Ontario it has been suggested they have been reintroduced by those who have had Cougars as pets and they were released or escaped into the wild. Ontario now has the makings of a wild boar problem because of such caring owners, attempting to farm them, and they have escape. It would appear that there is some good evidence that there are a few Cougars scattered about here in Ontario, but government sources don’t believe they belong to the same gene pool as the Eastern Cougar which I think may still remain on the endangered species list. Something to think about if you come across a Cougar and decide to shoot it. If you do so, you might want to consider SSS treatment as opposed to publicizing it. Apparently they have a DNA read on the Eastern Cougar gene pool..


You don’t stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
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