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February 1st, 2021, 08:52 AM
#21

Originally Posted by
fratri
The conservatives don't seem to be playing to win, they act like they are content for second place.... O'Toole needs to get out there and show Canadians that they are not scary....
Trudeau gets the spotlight and his base believes or isn't worried about what he is doing, they are more worried about what the Conservatives might do....
Like my dad says, they are all crooks but at least the Liberals will take less away from us and may even give some of it back to us.......My dad and many others in the GTA may not like Trudeau but they are scared of the Conservatives. If the Conservatives can't change the GTA's perception of them, they will not get the votes....
Big problem these days. People are more afraid of the unknown and pure speculation. Than they are bothered or disgusted by Liberals. Fact of the matter is, any “fears” of a new leader. Are pure supposition and speculation.
Gilroy. Say what ever you like about Harper. He doesn’t come close to the damage, problems, scandals from Liberal parties the last 20 years. Not even remotely. SNC, JWR, Vice admiral Norman alone. Alone. Blow anything Harper did over 12 years....there is no comparison...
O’Toole.
Biggest problem I see for him, is that he has to compete with Covid, Vaccines, etc for headlines and sound bytes.
Last edited by JBen; February 1st, 2021 at 08:58 AM.
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February 1st, 2021 08:52 AM
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February 1st, 2021, 09:31 AM
#22

Originally Posted by
fishermccann
He specifically mentioned Trudeau, so we were talking about federally. Next.
You don't think the loss of Liberal support on the provincial level will have any affect on the Federal Level....Haha....
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February 1st, 2021, 09:39 AM
#23
I've been noticing a shift in the MSM, they have been going after the Village Idiot lately, between the Payette and vaccine debacles they have been hammering him pretty good. That'll start to shift public opinion and we should see that 4 point cap between the Cons and Libs dwindle away.
Trudeau has nothing 'good' to run on...it's all bad news. Makes it easier for O'Tool...he doesn't have to defend himself.
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February 1st, 2021, 11:04 AM
#24

Originally Posted by
MikePal
Makes it easier for O'Tool...he doesn't have to defend himself.
He just has to avoid the standard Conservative policy of handing the election to the opposition. Kicking out Sloan was huge, don't let that be part of it moving forward, they cannot win as a far right or even right wing party, they need to be a central party that offsets the Liberal shift to the left and give the people some economic reality without getting anywhere near store closures on Sunday or same sex marriage or LGTBQ+ rights, just leave it all alone or support human beings without having a damn agenda that can be brought up in attack ads later.
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February 1st, 2021, 12:39 PM
#25
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
Fox
He just has to avoid the standard Conservative policy of handing the election to the opposition. Kicking out Sloan was huge, don't let that be part of it moving forward, they cannot win as a far right or even right wing party, they need to be a central party that offsets the Liberal shift to the left and give the people some economic reality without getting anywhere near store closures on Sunday or same sex marriage or LGTBQ+ rights, just leave it all alone or support human beings without having a damn agenda that can be brought up in attack ads later.
As long as your ok with grown men in the same restroom and change rooms as your daughter, that's your choice. IMO that kind of bs should not be left alone. Want to bring up rights......wow.
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February 2nd, 2021, 05:48 PM
#26

Originally Posted by
Fox
He just has to avoid the standard Conservative policy of handing the election to the opposition. Kicking out Sloan was huge, don't let that be part of it moving forward, they cannot win as a far right or even right wing party, they need to be a central party that offsets the Liberal shift to the left and give the people some economic reality without getting anywhere near store closures on Sunday or same sex marriage or LGTBQ+ rights, just leave it all alone or support human beings without having a damn agenda that can be brought up in attack ads later.
Bingo !
“You have enemies ? Good. It means you have stood up for something, sometime in your life”: Winston Churchill
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February 2nd, 2021, 05:51 PM
#27
[QUOTE=JBen;Say what ever you like about Harper. He doesn’t come close to the damage, problems, scandals from Liberal parties the last 20 years. Not even remotely. SNC, JWR, Vice admiral Norman alone. Alone. Blow anything Harper did over 12 years....there is no comparison...
.[/QUOTE]
^^^^ this !
Biggest issue they had was a senator claiming $90K in expenses which was something the rest likely did anyway, and a rich guy in the PMO paid it off for him.
Not enough people care enough to inform themselves.
“You have enemies ? Good. It means you have stood up for something, sometime in your life”: Winston Churchill
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February 2nd, 2021, 06:18 PM
#28
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
73hunter
Bingo !
Just for asking sake,
So by agreeing with Fox, you support a man who identifies not as a man to use female facilities?
I ask as a friend cancelled his daughters gym membership based on updated policy. Any man who identifies (dresses) as a woman may use female facilities. These include female change, rest, shower facilities.
These are policies pushed by our sorry to say it liberals.
I ask you, as to who's rights are we talking about here, that need to be left alone? Is it the rights of the LGBQT, or is it the rights of a teenage girl sharing a change room with a man?
Not sure about you, but these issues should NOT be left alone imo.
If this is what the left thinks is unity, it's no wonder there's so much divide
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February 2nd, 2021, 08:13 PM
#29

Originally Posted by
canadaman30
Just for asking sake,
So by agreeing with Fox, you support a man who identifies not as a man to use female facilities?
I ask as a friend cancelled his daughters gym membership based on updated policy. Any man who identifies (dresses) as a woman may use female facilities. These include female change, rest, shower facilities.
These are policies pushed by our sorry to say it liberals.
I ask you, as to who's rights are we talking about here, that need to be left alone? Is it the rights of the LGBQT, or is it the rights of a teenage girl sharing a change room with a man?
Not sure about you, but these issues should NOT be left alone imo.
If this is what the left thinks is unity, it's no wonder there's so much divide
CMan30, believe me I am 100% with you on this as are 80% of the population. My support of LGBTQ rights consists of “go ahead and do whatever you want but don’t expect the rest of society to accommodate you”
Unfortunately no Conservative is going to win an election if that is one of the main issues discussed because 10% of the population does 90% of the talking and finger-wagging and they also get the media coverage. And anyone on the right side of the spectrum gets vilified for representing the views of ordinary people like us.
Economic and security issues first.
“You have enemies ? Good. It means you have stood up for something, sometime in your life”: Winston Churchill
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February 2nd, 2021, 08:29 PM
#30
all I ever get from India is scammed