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February 10th, 2021, 10:35 PM
#141

Originally Posted by
Species8472
Being on the board would be irrelevant if during the 15 years of McSquinty and Wynn they decided to fix the problems. They didn't. The fact that Harris finds it in his financial interest to be on the boards right now is 100% because McSquinty and Wynn during their 15 year reign made no changes to the system.
The only connection to make is McSquinty and Wynn are total idiots for not correcting the problems when they had 15 years to so. The only other option is that the changes Harris made way back were actually endorsed by the red team because they too find them beneficial on a personal level so decided to leave it alone.
Why would the Provincial Government be paying into private run long term homes and BTW where the worse infections and death's took place. On the other hand the public and city funded home faired much better.
Last edited by Gilroy; February 10th, 2021 at 10:40 PM.
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February 10th, 2021 10:35 PM
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February 11th, 2021, 12:01 AM
#142

Originally Posted by
Gilroy
Why would the Provincial Government be paying into private run long term homes and BTW where the worse infections and death's took place. On the other hand the public and city funded home faired much better.
Where did i say anything about who pays into a long-term care home? I didn't because it is not relevant.
The issue that has caused the current disaster is the regulatory framework and the the enforcement of those regulations. This is the sole purview of the provincial government. Who is running a home and who is on their board of directors will be irrelevant if the province does its job properly. Doing the job properly means effective regulation combined with strong enforcement of the regulations. For profit companies will always do the minimum that regulation allows whether owned by conservatives, liberals, communists, Chinese etc.. That minimum operating standard is 100% determined by the province. In the 15 years Wynn and McSquinty were on the scene they continued the half arsed status quo ineffective regulatory minimum that has lead to the disaster we are currently witnessing. They had ample opportunity to improve that regulatory minimum that is the clusterf#$% now in place. They didn't - and that is on them 100%. If they had corrected the regulatory deficiencies and implemented strong enforcement the private homes would not be in their current state no matter who owned, operated or funded them.
Whether the status quo continues remains to be seen and will be on Ford.
Last edited by Species8472; February 11th, 2021 at 12:20 AM.
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February 11th, 2021, 03:41 AM
#143

Originally Posted by
Gilroy
Why would the Provincial Government be paying into private run long term homes .
Because they take in patients that are subsidised by the Provincial government (OHIP) ....
In Ontario, all long-term care homes are publicly funded and regulated by the Ontario provincial government. Ownership can vary, with 57% of long-term care homes privately owned, 24% owned by non-profit/charitable, and 17% municipal.
Last edited by MikePal; February 11th, 2021 at 08:24 AM.
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February 11th, 2021, 01:57 PM
#144
Seems it will now be middle to end of March before Canada gets any amount of Vaccines. By the time we even get ramped up most countries will be close to finished.
What person in this country spent hundreds of Billions and still could not manage to do a single thing right.
Personally anyone who supported him is as much as responsible for this mess he created. The earliest Canada can now complete vaccinations will most likely be late 2022.
So I guess my predictions were wrong I said early 2022.
"This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013) OFAH Member
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February 11th, 2021, 03:05 PM
#145

Originally Posted by
Species8472
Where did i say anything about who pays into a long-term care home? I didn't because it is not relevant.
The issue that has caused the current disaster is the regulatory framework and the the enforcement of those regulations. This is the sole purview of the provincial government. Who is running a home and who is on their board of directors will be irrelevant if the province does its job properly. Doing the job properly means effective regulation combined with strong enforcement of the regulations. For profit companies will always do the minimum that regulation allows whether owned by conservatives, liberals, communists, Chinese etc.. That minimum operating standard is 100% determined by the province. In the 15 years Wynn and McSquinty were on the scene they continued the half arsed status quo ineffective regulatory minimum that has lead to the disaster we are currently witnessing. They had ample opportunity to improve that regulatory minimum that is the clusterf#$% now in place. They didn't - and that is on them 100%. If they had corrected the regulatory deficiencies and implemented strong enforcement the private homes would not be in their current state no matter who owned, operated or funded them.
Whether the status quo continues remains to be seen and will be on Ford.
Who pays in is relevant because we now know Private homes had more death's overall. The present government who BTW have been trying to manage this, have done a terrible job of inspections and compliance to date, so its already on Doug's back and has been since he was elected June 29, 2018, so in over 2 full years on the job with the pandemic being over a year, he can't get his act in gear.
The only forewarning for the previous governments of Mc Guinty and Wynn would have been SARS and I agree with you that should have been a red light and they should have done better.
The cozy relationship's with any ex politicians being involved in these homes is unsettling to me.
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March 13th, 2021, 06:53 PM
#146
Has too much time on their hands
An outbreak... even though shots had already been received.
https://www.facebook.com/32204506174...57318715517668
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March 13th, 2021, 07:08 PM
#147
Well it's a two dose treatment and Canada decided against following the instructions the instructions which say the second shot must be in less then 30 day's not 4 months as the Liberals have said. The manufacture has stated this, Israel has said this based on their tests and Dr. Fauci has stated the same.
"This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013) OFAH Member
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March 13th, 2021, 07:12 PM
#148
Something else to keep in Mind even our current vaccines you can still get diseases like Chicken Pox and Mumps even if you had the vaccine, the key is herd immunity.
"This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013) OFAH Member
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March 13th, 2021, 07:35 PM
#149
I am a frontline worker and received my first shot and was scheduled for my second shot on April 7. I just received notice that my second shot has been cancelled until further notice.
Government is doing this to boost the numbers of people getting vaccinated. I guess if they delay the second shot there will be technically twice the numbers vaccinated. Looks good for their numbers for an election. They don’t care if it’s not effective, they only care for the numbers vaccinated!
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March 13th, 2021, 08:03 PM
#150
Liberals have a hard time following Science and instructions they seem to think they know better then the people who actually designed and made it.

Originally Posted by
Mauro
I am a frontline worker and received my first shot and was scheduled for my second shot on April 7. I just received notice that my second shot has been cancelled until further notice.
Government is doing this to boost the numbers of people getting vaccinated. I guess if they delay the second shot there will be technically twice the numbers vaccinated. Looks good for their numbers for an election. They don’t care if it’s not effective, they only care for the numbers vaccinated!
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"This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013) OFAH Member