End the lockdowns

[JBen]

I see I've been directly addressed. Still can't figure out the context of Harper and 08? I recall those years very well. Until Drummind kicked the lid off the can, you would defend the spending on PS. Argue with me, Werner, Trimmer, and others...

So what do you know of economics Gord.you went to school to learn how change catheters didnt you?

You do know that revenue goes down, and expenses up???? Perhaps as with the province that's the problem here in Ontario. Run by unions and people that might know this, but not that? No doubt the people of Ontario would accept, and benefit if accountants ran ERs, and changed catheters in LTCs...

I actually liked Chretian, voted for him. Be that as it may. Name one government that doesnt run deficits when hit by something as bad as 08. Is JT running one today? You won't, you can't, so shut it.And the fact people on the left bring that up to often ( Harper and 08)..not even the slightest grasp of economics. If your balanced and revenue drops by $1, and expenses go up by $1...
Does that not equal -2?

As for threads being knocked off the rails. It's a rare a post goes off RIGHTaway. Within a few post. What don't you understand about that? How often do you see people try starting it a second time within a page or two. Like never?

Here's a toothpick for more crow.

And I always chuckle when you and Terry feel like you have to stick up for each other. Like two children that after having dug a hole......

[JBen]

Just in an effort to try and put some perspective on this.

2008, McGuinty, Public service spending. My memory isn't quite as sharp as it used to be. I'm getting old

I very much recall people here, maybe you? Maybe not! But do recall all the debates about it, and some defending it, you among them.....Would accuse those of us, that we're critical of all the love for Union support and votes, as just being jealous of PS salaries and benefits......what did “you” call it? Ah yes, pension envy.

Until a cherry picked very left wing economist kicked the lid off the can. I can only imagine what a right wing economist might have said.

Point being: 12 years later, another kick in the gonads for the people of Ontario....and in particular those that are still struggling to pay bills, Hydro, save....
What's changed since? Squat.

Prices paid...

More than once, if you've been reading along, I have repeatedly, made the point that yes, threads so branch off, and that's ok. This thread, went off right away.....guess you missed that, and the fact, the originator started a 2nd thread right away...because...and that IS THE POiNT. Not that things “branch off”...

And that is about all that needs to be said on that, or should have been required if people paused to realize it. Kind of shocked, I even have to....

I don't know what occurred in Great Whites, starlink thread. Maybe I'm wrong, but didn't he to, feel the need to start a second thread...That should only ever occur logically, if the originator feels it went off the rails way too fast....

[fishermccann]

You say that, like the threads that I or Gil. start, never get sent off the rails in the first couple of posts. But that's okay by me, because what I see, is a bunch of people , thinking that they are going to change the world, by condemning or espousing the benefits of various political parties. On a outdoors internet website .The only one who has the courage to stand behind his convictions, is a libertarian. For that I commend him. You want to change things , not just give lip service to your views, run for office. The tool might kick them from the party that many on here admire, once he finds out that their point of view, would make them unelectable, but at least they tried. Nothing that is said here, really truly matters. I know it is place to get things off your chest, but that is all that it does accomplish. It is entertaining. Have a good day, off to the Bay, for a little fishing.

[greatwhite]

You are the biggest whiner and troll and hunting / fishing Website but are anti gun.
You hijack threads more then anyone on here.
Those are facts

You say that, like the threads that I or Gil. start, never get sent off the rails in the first couple of posts. But that's okay by me, because what I see, is a bunch of people , thinking that they are going to change the world, by condemning or espousing the benefits of various political parties. On a outdoors internet website .The only one who has the courage to stand behind his convictions, is a libertarian. For that I commend him. You want to change things , not just give lip service to your views, run for office. The tool might kick them from the party that many on here admire, once he finds out that their point of view, would make them unelectable, but at least they tried. Nothing that is said here, really truly matters. I know it is place to get things off your chest, but that is all that it does accomplish. It is entertaining. Have a good day, off to the Bay, for a little fishing.

[JBen]

Classic liberal

I'll humor you.
What does that have to do with you going off half cocked, being clueless about Harper/2008, and economics, or chirping at me about threads that branch off, when I in plain English defended that and made it clear the issue was it going off right away, more than once. And I have to spell it out finally, like this is a kindergarten class. And didnt you go off half cocked just the other day and eat crow then too....Yep you did, and I Even had to mention GWs starlink thread.....And if your still in the fog about 2008, and a few things. The title of the two threads are "End the lockdowns"

What's changed?
For the peons, who are never a priority because........."you" (note quote) are oh so important and worth it....Do you think, things are funny for them?
We are still running large deficits and more.
Still can't afford GPs for 800,000 peons without...

People are allowed differing opinons?
Good to know, I'll remember that the next time you say I have Pension Envy, and I think about people who are struggling to pay bills, Hydro, taxes and save.....

Do something about it?
Hmm, a member of the Con party that's considering throwing my hat in with the libertarian's. And a few other things I might mention.
Like calling spades spades. What's changed here?

But lets just examine that last ill considered comment.
Deflection from the matter at hand, red herring, change the channel, and utter ignorance/obfuscation. Something children do, after being caught with their hands in the cookie jar.

[MarkB]

You say that, like the threads that I or Gil. start, never get sent off the rails in the first couple of posts. But that's okay by me, because what I see, is a bunch of people , thinking that they are going to change the world, by condemning or espousing the benefits of various political parties. On a outdoors internet website .The only one who has the courage to stand behind his convictions, is a libertarian. For that I commend him. You want to change things , not just give lip service to your views, run for office. The tool might kick them from the party that many on here admire, once he finds out that their point of view, would make them unelectable, but at least they tried. Nothing that is said here, really truly matters. I know it is place to get things off your chest, but that is all that it does accomplish. It is entertaining. Have a good day, off to the Bay, for a little fishing.

Here we go again ... these threads ALWAYS end the same way, ALWAYS ... we can just start copying and pasting the last 4 pages of comments ... Fishy, when you have 10 or 20 guys presenting information, and then you deflect ... all the time ... deflect ... you got to ask, who is the problem, EVERYONE else or is it you?

You come on here making crazy statements insinuating HARPER did a bad job with budget control, completely ignoring the fact that he was handed the GREAT RECESSION ... and just resort to the "Everyone else is wrong, I'm right ... I'm going fishing, blah, blah, blah" ... just hardly any facts (if any) ... you see you can't put up an argument, and then just have these "pull the plug" statements ... like "run for office" ... it's just a scape goat ... because you don't want to face the facts.

[greatwhite]

Don't forget even when you present proof he deflects and yet refuse to ever offer much proof himself. He would call a black car white just to troll. Remember he admitted he is only here to troll and nothing else. Which is why many on here believe he is anti gun and doesn't hunt.

Here we go again ... these threads ALWAYS end the same way, ALWAYS ... we can just start copying and pasting the last 4 pages of comments ... Fishy, when you have 10 or 20 guys presenting information, and then you deflect ... all the time ... deflect ... you got to ask, who is the problem, EVERYONE else or is it you?

You come on here making crazy statements insinuating HARPER did a bad job with budget control, completely ignoring the fact that he was handed the GREAT RECESSION ... and just resort to the "Everyone else is wrong, I'm right ... I'm going fishing, blah, blah, blah" ... just hardly any facts (if any) ... you see you can't put up an argument, and then just have these "pull the plug" statements ... like "run for office" ... it's just a scape goat ... because you don't want to face the facts.

[fishermccann]

To the last few posters. Why should I care about your opinion? Life will go on , me and mine have a very good one thanks.That seems to bother some people Oh well.

[JBen]

Some things are sure as the sun,

[COLOR=#000000]Here we go again ... these threads ALWAYS end the same way, ALWAYS ... we can just start copying and pasting the last 4 pages of comments ... Fishy, when you have 10 or 20 guys presenting information, and then you deflect ... all the time ... deflect ... you got to ask, who is the problem, EVERYONE else or is it you?

like deflecting, refusing to adult and take responsibility, and even on this "That seems to bother some people"...Yep it's about other people being jealous of your life, and not my behavior. LMAO I wouldn't want "your life" if offered the world for it. For starters, I wouldn't want my wife wondering about my maturity.

Case in point.
Only a child would jump in, buddy up as has happened so many times, or in todays vernacular a troll would come out from under the bridge. When it had died and bring it back to life. But for good measure, do so with hate to use inflammatory language but sometimes you just have to call a spade a spade. Make a fool of oneself ( harper and 08), nor bother to figure out some things. Like it not being about branching off and instead something else, and only being stated multiple times. And even then, not having the cognizant faculties to know a second thread had to be started and that is all there was sadly needed to be, and HAD to be pointed out..................

But some Trolls leap off bridges, without thinking to check how deep the water is first. Not my or anyone else problem Gord. We aren't responsible for your choices

[fishermccann]

Lol...Says the guy who said he will sell his house for 5 mill and flee the country. I have to apologise for nothing in my life. Certainly not to a bunch of people on a website who really do not know me. Worked hard , happy family, good friends. Guess that should not happen to someone who has voted Liberal, in 50% of the last four elections.