The Big Lie - Diversity

[Gilroy]

Thread.
Multiculturalism, diversity, plurality. Divides, polarization, and melting pots.....and is it possible to make so many happy......

Before it's goes astray, way too soon. But maybe, we should worry more about our backyards, and less about the US......despite Joe being a yank.

Agreeing to disagree with you is agreeable.

[canadaman30]

Anyone that listens to the news knows how divided the U.S. is - and I think there is no hope of bringing society together again - why - because world order folks did their best to sell the idea that diversity in a society was a good thing - our country is now made up of so many different people with so many different ideas that trying to solve problems is near impossible - it is common sense that a country made up of so many different groups each with it own agenda - (which often go against the agenda of other groups) will not be a strong country - as long as things are going ok people will generally get along but if really bad things happen each group will attempt to take care of its own and things will fall apart - and how can progress be made when one group gains political power and ends up doing away with the former group's accomplishments -

Sure it sounds nice - having a country made up of people with different religions, races, nationalities, culture and what not and all getting along together but with human nature as it is this isn't going to happen - I don't know my country anymore - there was a time when I closely related with what was going on but now find that I am a stranger in my own country - I realize that some diversity is going to occur but when the soul of your country is changing because of people from other places having more and more control then it has gone too far - and that's what has happened here in America - people who push the world order agenda feel that wars are all started because of differences in wealth of countries, religion and nationality - if these can be done away with people have no reason to go to war - all I can say is - lots of luck -

You hit the nail on the head.
But don't worry Biden has hoards of illegals heading towards and now crossing over your southern border.
Your country is not a whole bunch different than ours, freeloaders, criminals, theives and traitors make up a vast amount of leftist electorate.
Unity is just a lie to feed the sheeple

[3030]

We need to acknowledge the truth for what it is not ignore it or justify it, I am sure if you were descendant from a plantation slave in the Southern US you would have a different outlook.

Yes I would be happy that they didn't leave me back in africa

[3030]

You hit the nail on the head.
But don't worry Biden has hoards of illegals heading towards and now crossing over your southern border.
Your country is not a whole bunch different than ours, freeloaders, criminals, theives and traitors make up a vast amount of leftist electorate.
Unity is just a lie to feed the sheeple

All with there hands out to take and give nothing back

[JBen]

Terry, lol. , agreed

Topic
Try getting six wasp people in a house to agree on which restaurant to go to for dinner. Now add 2 vegans, 2 from Asia, 1 from Indo pacific, 1 from the Caribean, 2 from S. America.
Now add such things different regions, some need dairy, some are lactose intolerant ( think Rural/Urban).
In a household most understand that the 6 old school wasp will win the vote most of the time, but the wasp (cities) knowing that, will make an effort to give the others the time of day occasionally.
Politics these days.....Not so much tolerance and inclusiveness. See the article I linked.

FNs.
I will agree with you ( that's apparent) that we historically not treated them well. No one has, anywhere in the world, and they did enjoy wiping each other out, taking each others land and resources and even today, fight amongst themselves over land claims, whether pipelines should go through ancestral land or not and benefit from the economic windfalls, etc, etc.
Truth of the matter is Terry, no one cares. If the cities did,they'd make more noise about it, and the politicians would listen. Or were you not around Christmas when the whitepeoplekind made all kinds of noise about a few that flew south...My oh my heads rolled fast. Drinking water and "thanks for the donation"?


So, when it comes to the US and what they did, do or don't. Look around our own backyard and 10 dozen different issues. Did you know we are one of the worst polluters, worse than the US...
800,000 Ontarians without GPs....Vaccines,,,and yet we always look down our noses at the US. "funny that"
please, we have nothing to be smug about.

[410001661]

I am sure the Indian Confederacy felt the exact same way when the "white man" invaded their country and took away their way of life.
The USA was built on the blood, sweat and tears and death's of slaves by the ten's of thousands. The foundation of your country was faulty
from day one and built on racism and segregation. Its to bad that you appear to be woefully inadequate in understand the history of your land.

First of all there was no such thing as an Indian Confederacy when the 'white man' arrived. The French called them the Indian Confederacy and the English called them 5 Nations (Mohawk, Onondaga, Oneida, Cayuga, and Seneca)........it was not until 1772 when they accepted Tuscarora people in (also Iroquois speaking) and Six Nations was formed.

So are you telling me that before the white man arrived the indigenous people of North America were living in utopia? Maybe they had the perfect society.......no wars, no slavery, no killing, no starvation, and no hostility amongst themselves? If you even remotely believe any of that maybe it is you that do not know your history, or maybe you watch too much TV?.

Natives have been fighting against themselves since time began. In the area of Hamilton before colonization there were natives called the Neutrals (because they were neutral between the Iroquois and the Huron) that were all but obliterated by the Iroquois. They killed men women and children and mass graves so large that they still exist to this day as hills in the lower city. Natives took slaves as battle trophies, took wives of their fallen enemy, they fought with each other and killed, raped and looted entire villages. So when the white man arrived they were fought and lost that war. Yes, the natives helped the British win decisive battles in the Rebellion of 1812 and some were rewarded with land and fortune (Joseph Brant, Tecumseh to name a few), and treated the natives much better than the Americans did.

........so I would say that racism and segregation was alive and well long before colonization.

[Gilroy]

Terry, lol. , agreed

Topic
Try getting six wasp people in a house to agree on which restaurant to go to for dinner. Now add 2 vegans, 2 from Asia, 1 from Indo pacific, 1 from the Caribean, 2 from S. America.
Now add such things different regions, some need dairy, some are lactose intolerant ( think Rural/Urban).
In a household most understand that the 6 old school wasp will win the vote most of the time, but the wasp (cities) knowing that, will make an effort to give the others the time of day occasionally.
Politics these days.....Not so much tolerance and inclusiveness. See the article I linked.

FNs.
I will agree with you ( that's apparent) that we historically not treated them well. No one has, anywhere in the world, and they did enjoy wiping each other out, taking each others land and resources and even today, fight amongst themselves over land claims, whether pipelines should go through ancestral land or not and benefit from the economic windfalls, etc, etc.
Truth of the matter is Terry, no one cares. If the cities did,they'd make more noise about it, and the politicians would listen. Or were you not around Christmas when the whitepeoplekind made all kinds of noise about a few that flew south...My oh my heads rolled fast. Drinking water and "thanks for the donation"?


So, when it comes to the US and what they did, do or don't. Look around our own backyard and 10 dozen different issues. Did you know we are one of the worst polluters, worse than the US...
800,000 Ontarians without GPs....Vaccines,,,and yet we always look down our noses at the US. "funny that"
please, we have nothing to be smug about.

Well I can tell you when I used the term WASP on this forum about 10 years ago, one of your Conservative friend complained and I was put in detention for awhile, amazing how its now tolerated.

[Gilroy]

4100

I guess you just expressed it way better than me:


"So when the white man arrived they were fought and lost that war. Yes, the natives helped the British win decisive battles in the Rebellion of 1812 and some were rewarded with land and fortune (Joseph Brant, Tecumseh to name a few), and treated the natives much better than the Americans did."


LOL so John they rewarded the people who fought alongside them WITH A SMALL PORTION of their own land back. Enough said. That is like saying after the English stood by and saw millions of Irish starve, they were kind enough to allow the survivors to be tenant farmers on their own soil, they had been there since the times of the Celt's and Vikings. Thank you master.

[73hunter]

Joe, I think there are many many reasons that your country has ended up where she is, but I’m not sure that cultural diversity is the chief reason. If everyone had good paying jobs, they’d get along better. The greed of all has shipped the jobs overseas, and they’re not coming back.

Gilroy: yes the Native Canadians were not always treated well (residential schools), but the idea that this was THEIR land doesn’t fly. Sparsely populated by people that were largely nomadic - doesn’t equal ownership.

[delmer]

Whenever I hear our PM recite his mantra of "diversity is our strength," I think just the opposite. Diversity doesn't promote unity, it encourages nonconformity.