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February 20th, 2021, 09:02 AM
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Trudeau's allegiance
This will be interesting and a must watch. Trudeau is being cornered in declaring the recent events in China a genocide.
He has been trying to minimize it. About to blow up in his face.
"The Liberal government is being urged to label crimes against the Uyghur people as genocide despite almost-certain backlash from the Chinese, following a motion introduced by the Tories in the House of Commons Thursday."
"Opposition parties, a former diplomat and a former Liberal minister are among those calling for the government to officially adopt the position that a genocide is being carried out on Uyghurs and other Turkic Muslims in the Xinjiang region of China."
"On Monday, the House is expected to vote on the motion. If passed it is likely to infuriate China. On Thursday, China said Canada committed a “despicable and hypocritical act “by this week signing on to a declaration denouncing state-sponsored arbitrary detention of foreign citizens for political purposes."
"A House of Commons subcommittee concluded in October that the situation does constitute a genocide under the 1948 Genocide Convention, citing testimony about mass detention of nearly two million individuals housed in what witnesses described as concentration camps and who are subjected to psychological, physical and sexual abuse. They are also forbidden from speaking their language and practising their religion, subject to mass surveillance, forced labour, and “inhuman measures” to reduce the population, the committee found."
"Earlier this week, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said while there are “tremendous human rights abuses” happening in Xinjiang, the word genocide is an “extremely loaded” one, and Canada should study whether the term applies in this case."
https://nationalpost.com/news/politi...urs-a-genocide
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February 20th, 2021 09:02 AM
# ADS
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February 20th, 2021, 09:22 AM
#2
Just like the little weasel he is, trying not to talk badly about his role models.
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How is it one careless cigarette can cause a forest fire, but it takes a whole box of matches to light a campfire?
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February 20th, 2021, 10:53 AM
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He doesn't want the upset the Chinese they may steal his election
I think after all the mounting evidence and the denials by China...The Village Idiot will have to 'Fish or cut bait' before he goes for re-election.
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February 20th, 2021, 11:13 AM
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Canada is significantly less dependent on trade with China than allies like Australia or New Zealand, amounting to four per cent of external trade, and most of that is in goods that have a global market, Burton said.
“The ability of the Chinese government to engage in serious trade retaliation against Canada is, objectively speaking, rather limited and because of the close to 3-1 trade imbalance between Canada and China, any reciprocal trade action would be more damaging to Chinese interests than Canadian interests,” he said.
That, right there, is a chief reason I'm so "puzzled and concerned" about all things Trudeua/Liberals and China. In another thread, someone, can't recall who said "What can we do about it".
Answer; Lots. Can start with Soy and barley.
Another puzzling aspect, is that we are not the only country in the world with increasingly tense relations. Yet, we seem to be the only country China is really intimidating like the pansies we are.
So what gives
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February 20th, 2021, 12:51 PM
#5

Originally Posted by
JBen
That, right there, is a chief reason I'm so "puzzled and concerned" about all things Trudeua/Liberals and China. In another thread, someone, can't recall who said "What can we do about it".
Answer; Lots. Can start with Soy and barley.
Another puzzling aspect, is that we are not the only country in the world with increasingly tense relations. Yet, we seem to be the only country China is really intimidating like the pansies we are.
So what gives
Well Having posed the question to you "what can we do about it"
Your answer seems a little inadequate, we cut of barley and soy ,could they now source it some where else and what would that do to our farmers.
Its like Erin's boycotting the Olympics' in Beijing suggestion, great for him but what about the athletes who might only get one crack at the games an have trained so hard.
I see it in practical terms Canada with 40 million soul's and China with about 1 billion more, economy of scale type of thing.
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February 20th, 2021, 01:05 PM
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Was it you?
How many times through history, might you say there's been some type of conflict that didn't resort to some pain, for either side, or even clear cut winners?
And while things are rarely straightforward. How did you miss reading this. Honestly, sometimes I'm left.......
Canada is significantly less dependent on trade with China than allies like Australia or New Zealand, amounting to four per cent of external trade, and
most of that is in goods that have a global market, Burton said.
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The ability of the Chinese government to engage in serious trade retaliation against Canada is, objectively speaking, rather limited and because of the close to 3-1 trade imbalance between Canada and China, any reciprocal trade action would be more damaging to Chinese interests than Canadian interests,” he said.].
And do you really think Terry, that wee little old Canada is or would be the only country saying enough is enough. Do we not have allies? Other places that would happily buy our goods, while also giving China the gears?
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February 20th, 2021, 01:36 PM
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Has too much time on their hands
Trudeau is in love with China, After all he loves communist dictatorship
Last edited by finsfurfeathers; February 20th, 2021 at 04:25 PM.
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February 20th, 2021, 02:04 PM
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The Chinese communists own Trudeau lock,stock and barrel. He'll be a good little commie as long as President Xi tells him to be.
If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....
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February 20th, 2021, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by
JBen
Was it you?
How many times through history, might you say there's been some type of conflict that didn't resort to some pain, for either side, or even clear cut winners?
And while things are rarely straightforward. How did you miss reading this. Honestly, sometimes I'm left.......
And do you really think Terry, that wee little old Canada is or would be the only country saying enough is enough. Do we not have allies? Other places that would happily buy our goods, while also giving China the gears?
Now your on the ball, we would need a lot of countries to join us in the problem.
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February 20th, 2021, 04:48 PM
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Just curious, while that would be nice and almost a certainty. Do you see the US rolling over? Did you forget we can sell all kinds of stuff to the EU, and that China is just a very small part of trade balances.....Did you see or read that requirement in Burtons comments? Or did he say our passivity is making the situation worse ( usually happens doesn't it?) and that we have little to worry about trade retaliation because we hold the cards....
Do you think you know better than he? I mean he's just an expert on China amongst other things.
Bu Charles Burton, a former diplomat in Beijing and China and senior fellow with the Macdonald-Laurier Institute
As I said, I sometimes don't how to respond to things...By all means, have your own opinion. But have some ammunition or at the very least read what other experts think. How did you miss reading that....................
Last edited by JBen; February 20th, 2021 at 04:51 PM.