Private Property blocking access to public land

[fishermccann]

Sorry T21. I do get your point. I was unaware that Frenchmans Bay was ever 'farmland'. The hunt camp in Port Perry, on Lake Scugog, would be another better example, in that case, they even own the water.

[trimmer21]

Sorry T21. I do get your point. I was unaware that Frenchmans Bay was ever 'farmland'. The hunt camp in Port Perry, on Lake Scugog, would be another better example, in that case, they even own the water.

I've hunted "The Syndicate" as a guest a couple of times (friends in high places,lol). It's quite the outfit. That's a perfect example of flooded private property before Lake Scugog ever existed. The directors have no problem with fishing on the property during the waterfowl off-season,but,they hire security to boot trespassers when hunting season arrives.

[fishermccann]

Yup, but they could stop you from fishing if they wished. That property is fantastic for a day of giant carp fishing. Friend of mine lived in Caesarea, we use to make the trip down the lake often.

[Gilroy]

Yep,aware of that. See my post #22 on flooded farm land. Gilroy,cottagers already pay municipal taxes on their property. The lake has nothing to do with it. What is a NO LAKEFRONTAGE tax law and how would it work?

Clearly you do not seem aware of the fact that waterfront properties and especially lakefront properties pay a premium for being on the water and their tax load is increasing more than most properties as they are more desirable. MPAC takes into consideration if you are on a lake and taxes are higher.

I know in my township without the taxes from Wollaston Lake cottagers, the township would be in big financial trouble. The economic benefits to year round local's from seasonal cottagers is enormous.

https://foca.on.ca/waterfront-proper...c-development/

[trimmer21]

Clearly you do not seem aware of the fact that waterfront properties and especially lakefront properties pay a premium for being on the water and their tax load is increasing more than most properties as they are more desirable. MPAC takes into consideration if you are on a lake and taxes are higher.

I know in my township without the taxes from Wollaston Lake cottagers, the township would be in big financial trouble. The economic benefits to year round local's from seasonal cottagers is enormous.

https://foca.on.ca/waterfront-proper...c-development/

Premium property pays premium taxes. That's no different than city properties with larger lots.

[onelessarrow]

I've hunted "The Syndicate" as a guest a couple of times (friends in high places,lol). It's quite the outfit. That's a perfect example of flooded private property before Lake Scugog ever existed. The directors have no problem with fishing on the property during the waterfowl off-season,but,they hire security to boot trespassers when hunting season arrives.

Not anymore they don't, just got changed before opener last fall. They only own the land under the water. They only can prevent you from anchoring, that's it. You can thank the new Navigable Waters Act for that change.

[MikePal]

Premium property pays premium taxes. That's no different than city properties with larger lots.

Correct. MPAC does NOT make up the property values, they only assess them based values established thru real estate sales in your area based on similar size lot sizes, bedrooms etc etc. Waterfront property is usually more valuable on the real estate market so they get assessed higher.

Taxes are based on the MPAC assessed property value 'X' the Townships 'mil rate'.

MPAC got my assessed value way wrong a few yrs backs, I launched a challenge and won, reduced my taxes significantly.

[trimmer21]

Not anymore they don't, just got changed before opener last fall. They only own the land under the water. They only can prevent you from anchoring, that's it. You can thank the new Navigable Waters Act for that change.

I wasn't aware the new Act changed that. That will surely wrankle some feathers,won't it?

[Bowjob]

Not anymore they don't, just got changed before opener last fall. They only own the land under the water. They only can prevent you from anchoring, that's it. You can thank the new Navigable Waters Act for that change.

lol, how can you own land but not the water thats ontop of it w.t.f LOL

saying that if my property floods i only own the land underneath the water? what if my land turns to a swamp lol do i own the swamp?

what if a body of water forms on your property? do you have the right to at least move the water off your property? so many questions lol

[onelessarrow]

The place in question had canals built to help their flooding. The new act speaks directly to that.

The right to navigate can't be restricted unless approved by transport canada.
So if you have public access to a body of water, you have the right to travel that water way wherever it takes you. If your back forty is flooded and our public access waterway is now connected. It's considered a navigable waterway.
I'm not referring to land locked lakes with no public access.