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    Quote Originally Posted by impact View Post
    " The founding prime minister of Canada, John A. Macdonald, and his successor, Alexander Mackenzie, who passed the Indian Act in 1876, both aimed to protect Natives from dishonest whites and to assist them in becoming educated and self-sufficient farmers with a stable, post-nomadic residential livelihood. Macdonald gave them the right to vote. There was a series of revisions to the Indian Act and 11 sequential treaties, and in 1920, school attendance was deemed compulsory for Indigenous children between the ages of seven and 15. These weren’t perfect solutions, and the residential school system did end up causing real harm to many people, but nor were they the malign plans of evil men."

    "In 1968, Pierre Trudeau’s government produced a white paper on Indian policy, which denounced the “different status” afforded to First Nations as leading to “a blind alley of deprivation and frustration.” The paper called for the outright integration and the dissolution of the Department of Indian Affairs, for the repeal of the Indian Act, for the existing treaties to be “equitably ended” and for the Crown to divest itself of reserve lands and transfer control to First Nations. Somewhat like the French-Canadians responding to the Durham Report’s advocacy of the assimilation of French-Canadians in 1840, the Natives redoubled their agitation for distinctive status and demanded radical improvements in their living standards and separation from, rather than integration into, the larger society of Canada. Trudeau executed a U-turn and, in the Constitution Act, 1982, the existing treaty rights of the Aboriginal peoples of Canada were “recognized and affirmed.”

    "In the words of Alberta conservative political scientist Tom Flanagan, “Canada will be redefined as a multinational state embracing an archipelago of Aboriginal nations that own a third of Canada’s land mass, are immune from federal and provincial taxation, are supported by transfer payments from citizens who do pay taxes, are able to opt out of federal and provincial legislation and engage in ‘nation to nation’ diplomacy with whatever is left of Canada.”

    https://nationalpost.com/opinion/conrad-black-7
    There are very few (any?) nations which provide as much for their indigenous people as Canada does.
    While the execution of the residential plan was a disaster, the actual plan of having Indigenous peoples join the developing Canada as a nation was a good idea.
    If it would have worked, we wouldn't have a million Canadians living in third world conditions on -hole reserves.
    It was a well-intention plan - but was executed poorly by some particularly evil people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by impact View Post
    " The founding prime minister of Canada, John A. Macdonald, and his successor, Alexander Mackenzie, who passed the Indian Act in 1876, both aimed to protect Natives from dishonest whites and to assist them in becoming educated and self-sufficient farmers with a stable, post-nomadic residential livelihood. Macdonald gave them the right to vote. There was a series of revisions to the Indian Act and 11 sequential treaties, and in 1920, school attendance was deemed compulsory for Indigenous children between the ages of seven and 15. These weren’t perfect solutions, and the residential school system did end up causing real harm to many people, but nor were they the malign plans of evil men."

    "In 1968, Pierre Trudeau’s government produced a white paper on Indian policy, which denounced the “different status” afforded to First Nations as leading to “a blind alley of deprivation and frustration.” The paper called for the outright integration and the dissolution of the Department of Indian Affairs, for the repeal of the Indian Act, for the existing treaties to be “equitably ended” and for the Crown to divest itself of reserve lands and transfer control to First Nations. Somewhat like the French-Canadians responding to the Durham Report’s advocacy of the assimilation of French-Canadians in 1840, the Natives redoubled their agitation for distinctive status and demanded radical improvements in their living standards and separation from, rather than integration into, the larger society of Canada. Trudeau executed a U-turn and, in the Constitution Act, 1982, the existing treaty rights of the Aboriginal peoples of Canada were “recognized and affirmed.”

    "In the words of Alberta conservative political scientist Tom Flanagan, “Canada will be redefined as a multinational state embracing an archipelago of Aboriginal nations that own a third of Canada’s land mass, are immune from federal and provincial taxation, are supported by transfer payments from citizens who do pay taxes, are able to opt out of federal and provincial legislation and engage in ‘nation to nation’ diplomacy with whatever is left of Canada.”

    https://nationalpost.com/opinion/conrad-black-7


    "Despite everything, even the First Nations should be grateful that the Europeans came here." Conrad Black a pompous twat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilroy View Post
    The aboriginal community is calling it a genocide....
    The aboriginal call blocking hwys and railways, burning and destroying public property attacking police and sabotaging our economy peaceful protests.



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    Quote Originally Posted by 73hunter View Post
    Some perhaps. Doesn’t equate to truth.
    It does according to the truth AND reconciliation committee

    "In June 2015, the TRC released an Executive Summary of its findings along with 94 "calls to action" regarding reconciliation between Canadians and Indigenous peoples. The Commission officially concluded in December 2015 with the publication of a multi-volume final report that concluded the school system amounted to cultural genocide

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    cANADAMA

    sAME OLD NONSENSE FROM YOU OF TOPIC on real history.

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    It is interesting how the immigrants were treated when they came to this country - the


















    It is interesting how the different immigrants were treated when they came to this country - the place was pretty much controlled by the Protestant English at first - the Germans and Eastern Europeans came - then the Irish who were mostly Catholics - then the Italians who were also mostly Catholic - it seemed like the group that was at the bottom of the totem pole produced the most professional boxers because it was a way for some kid to make some money - at one point a lot of fighters were Irish - then came a wave of Italian boxers - then the blacks - now mostly the Spanish - each group had to put up with some prejudice before being accepted - some of this prejudice still exists today - Catholics and Protestants are a lot closer today because they have a common enemy - but the group that was hit the hardest was the native Americans -

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    Quote Originally Posted by Species8472 View Post
    The "Great Horse Culture' was created by Europeans. The natives did not have horses until they were introduced by the Spanish.
    True - the Spanish brought them to America - they reproduced and the Indians made use of them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilroy View Post
    "Despite everything, even the First Nations should be grateful that the Europeans came here." Conrad Black a pompous twat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilroy View Post
    cANADAMA

    sAME OLD NONSENSE FROM YOU OF TOPIC on real history.
    Are you saying the videos posted are fake? Or you just won't admit the truth?....lol

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    Just curious, have the indigenous people apologized to each other for when they were killing and raping each other's villages, scalping and and collecting body parts for trophies, cannibalizing and wiping out any other tribes that stood in each other's way? Or is that too far back that we just don't want to believe it happened? The violence and way of life wasn't rainbows and unicorns before European settlement.....how far back does everyone need to apologize for before we can grow and move on? Asking for a friend......
    This isn't a test run................Enjoy er'.......

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