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April 13th, 2021, 06:27 AM
#21

Originally Posted by
MikePal
Your absolutely right, ever one of these incidents was a result of the perpetrator not doing as he/she was instructed to do. Almost all are resisting arrest situations.
Anti-police attitudes have permeated the past two generations. Especially in the Racialized Communities where lack of respect for Police authority in rampant.
Exactly, even the military officer recently peppersprayed by the cops, refused to comply. There’s a time and place to deal with an issue. During the interaction is not it ! It’s almost like these individual want to taunt the police into a use of force, not usually a good outcome.
Theres nothing wrong with telling an officer he/she is wrong, but comply anyway and deal with it later....
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April 13th, 2021 06:27 AM
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April 13th, 2021, 06:37 AM
#22
It's happening down south, with Police depts paying out huge settlements just to keep things out of court, some of these altercations are intentional. Take a beating while your buddy videos turns into a cash settlement.
That's the driving force behind officers wearing body cams in a lot of Police depts now.
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April 13th, 2021, 12:25 PM
#23
Well there's two sides to the story - I am an law and order type of guy but I also see where there are a lot of cases where the cops overstep the bounds - I met some cops who are real wise guys - who take advantage of the fact their have the authority to do certain things - some over do it - the coverage that cops have when preforming their duties is excessive - you are told not to resist when some cop is beating on you - your told to deal with it after the fact but then find out that the cards are stacked against you and nothing happens to the offending cop - if I was a black guy I can see why most blacks don't like cops because of the way they are treated - if I was a cop I can see why dealing with a lot of blacks is challenging because so many young males are law breakers - the moral of the story is - don't be a cop - find another way to make a living
Take this latest case where the lady cop shoots the black guy thinking she is tasering the guy - the guy tries to get back into his car - let him go - there are several ways that you can find who he is and arrest him later - that goes for so many cases where a driver doesn't respond to a cop's lawful order - instead of chasing him because of a traffic violation and risking innocent lives let him go and arrest him later - and if it happens that the guy gets away with a traffic violation so what -
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April 13th, 2021, 01:57 PM
#24

Originally Posted by
JoePa
Well there's two sides to the story - I am an law and order type of guy but I also see where there are a lot of cases where the cops overstep the bounds - I met some cops who are real wise guys - who take advantage of the fact their have the authority to do certain things - some over do it - the coverage that cops have when preforming their duties is excessive - you are told not to resist when some cop is beating on you - your told to deal with it after the fact but then find out that the cards are stacked against you and nothing happens to the offending cop - if I was a black guy I can see why most blacks don't like cops because of the way they are treated - if I was a cop I can see why dealing with a lot of blacks is challenging because so many young males are law breakers - the moral of the story is - don't be a cop - find another way to make a living
Take this latest case where the lady cop shoots the black guy thinking she is tasering the guy - the guy tries to get back into his car - let him go - there are several ways that you can find who he is and arrest him later - that goes for so many cases where a driver doesn't respond to a cop's lawful order - instead of chasing him because of a traffic violation and risking innocent lives let him go and arrest him later - and if it happens that the guy gets away with a traffic violation so what -
I believe the other day was the first anniversary of the tractor trailer and hockey team bus crash out west last year. At one point I Googled the map of the road the tractor trailer was traveling before the fatal crash, As I remember there were three or four intersecting roads a long the route, which I image had stop signs which the tractor driver chose to ignore because he could scout them out them before the intersection. At the fatal intersection there was a stand of tree that prevented him from seeing the approaching bus. But what heck at the other stop signs there was no approaching cross traffic so why not take the same chance at this one.- only this time there was!
It is truly amazing how individual can reach a certain level of complacency when laws aren’t effectively enforced. In fact I’m not sure in this province why they haven’t abandon the use of the stop sign entirely and simply replace them with the yield signs. I’ve even watch law enforce officers using the famed rolling stop, as everyone else. You can hardly fault the masses if law enforce sets the example. The story I got was we don’t do that anymore because it ties to much of our time up in court with motorists fighting the charge. Plus I suspect cities of any size would be perpetually in a state of grind lock if motorist actually did what the sign requires.- before checking for traffic out on the intersecting road fully lock down your brakes and halt your vehicles forward momentum. What a joke if that should happen LOL
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April 13th, 2021, 05:31 PM
#25

Originally Posted by
JoePa
the the lady cop shoots the black guy thinking she is tasering the guy - the guy tries to get back into his car - let him go - there are several ways that you can find who he is and arrest him later - that goes for so many cases where a driver doesn't respond to a cop's lawful order - instead of chasing him because of a traffic violation and risking innocent lives let him go and arrest him later - and if it happens that the guy gets away with a traffic violation so what -
I agree, what's the urgency.......Always time to get him later.
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April 13th, 2021, 05:45 PM
#26

Originally Posted by
fratri
I agree, what's the urgency.......Always time to get him later.
I have often wondered that..why not just let them go on a minor offence. Most of them are known to police . Send another car to pick him up when he gets home.
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April 13th, 2021, 07:09 PM
#27

Originally Posted by
MikePal
I have often wondered that..why not just let them go on a minor offence. Most of them are known to police . Send another car to pick him up when he gets home.
Maybe that is where some training or retaining should be done.... Old school is no longer the way it should be done
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April 13th, 2021, 09:32 PM
#28
Do they have a cop wave to other cops do you all wave at each other as you pass by one another?
You know like the Jeep waves
Boaters wave
Bikes and snowmobiles all have the wave .
We tried getting the Crown Vic wave going but its usually and older man lol ,and he has no idea why you gave him the peace sign lol. Hahaha [emoji1787]
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April 14th, 2021, 06:56 AM
#29

Originally Posted by
MikePal
I have often wondered that..why not just let them go on a minor offence. Most of them are known to police . Send another car to pick him up when he gets home.
Sure, let him get into his house where they are now possibly facing who knows what weapons ???
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April 14th, 2021, 07:03 AM
#30

Originally Posted by
fratri
Maybe that is where some training or retaining should be done.... Old school is no longer the way it should be done

So I guess when they are arresting someone on a warrant, and the person resists arrest, they should just let them go on their merry way ??? Maybe they should keep a trunk full of teddy bears, so they can give them out to people resisting arrest, which I add is another criminal offence ??!! Maybe that’s “New school “......you want !!
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