Stay away from Indianapolis

[MikePal]

In Canada's push back against anything American our country has forgotten the concept of freedom, or maybe we never really understood it.

People in socialist societies don't understand true Freedom because they live off the teat of the Government. The overseers own you from cradel to grave.

[73hunter]

From experience, I have travelled a lot in the US for business purposes north to south, east to west and have never felt threatened anywhere I went.
The media exaggerates a lot. Millions of Canadians have vacationed in the USA. How many horror stories have they reported?

I was not suggesting that it was terribly unsafe everywhere. I was making light of the concept that it was “ safe but bring body armour”

Just in case there’s a gunfight at the OK Corral

[johnjyb]

It is the same anywhere in the world. If you are going to be in public in any town or city you must have some kind of situational awareness. You don't walk around at midnight in an ethnically diverse ghetto by yourself looking like an easy mark.
You stay away from areas that just give you a bad feeling even in daylight, if you see people asleep in boxes and others just yelling to themselves or at others for no reason you see.
Random acts of violence can happen anywhere at anytime, in a backcountry park in central Ontario even and you will not avoid them all when outside your bubble, but you can stay away from areas that will have a much higher % of these things happening.
Stay aware and you will stay safer.
John

[Badenoch]

Tragedies like the one in Indianapolis are thankfully less likely to happen in Canada. The Indianapolis shooter legally bought and possessed the weapons he used despite being arrested the year before on a mental health complaint and having had a shotgun in his possession seized by police that was not returned.

In Canada had the same thing happened he'd have lost his PAL and would no longer be legally allowed to possess or acquire firearms or purchase ammunition. In America he can slap his money down, walk out with two assault rifles, fill his high capacity magazines to the brim and proceed to slaughter innocent people.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...le/7276098002/

FedEx shooting suspect legally purchased rifles months after shotgun was seized from his home
USA TODAY NETWORK

INDIANAPOLIS – The suspected gunman in a mass shooting that left eight people dead at a FedEx building legally purchased the two rifles used in the massacre months after a shotgun was seized from his home, authorities said.

A trace of the two guns revealed that Brandon Scott Hole, 19, legally bought the rifles in July and September last year, police said. Police declined to say where Hole bought the guns, citing the ongoing investigation.

FBI Indianapolis Special Agent in Charge Paul Keenan said Hole’s mother contacted law enforcement in March 2020 to report that Hole might try to commit "suicide by cop."

Records show the Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department conducted a mental health check and list Hole as being arrested. The report says police seized a shotgun "from dangerous person."

Police placed Hole on an immediate detention mental health temporary hold. The FBI interviewed Hole again a month later based on “items observed in the suspect’s bedroom” and said no violent extremist ideology was found or criminal violation detected, authorities said.

The shotgun was not returned to Hole.

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The FBI dropped the ball

[Badenoch]

The FBI dropped the ball

Not necessarily. It is possible the FBI dropped the ball if the shooter passed an NICS check or the system timed out. It is also possible the shooter purchased the assault weapons privately at a gun show, gun club or on the internet from a seller within his own state. The American background check is a joke and easily circumvented in most states.

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"Police placed Hole on an immediate detention mental health temporary hold. The FBI interviewed Hole again a month later based on “items observed in the suspect’s bedroom” and said no violent extremist ideology was found or criminal violation detected, authorities said."

Pretty incriminating statement. The FBI did not do due diligence. The flags were there.

Why does the Nova Scotia shooting come to mind?
Whats up with these federal agencies?
https://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/...ver-operation/

Bottom line is an identified nut job went on a shooting / killing spree.
Not the guns fault but societies failure. In order words, protocols were not followed.

[Badenoch]

"Police placed Hole on an immediate detention mental health temporary hold. The FBI interviewed Hole again a month later based on “items observed in the suspect’s bedroom” and said no violent extremist ideology was found or criminal violation detected, authorities said."

Pretty incriminating statement. The FBI did not do due diligence. The flags were there.

Why does the Nova Scotia shooting come to mind?
Whats up with these federal agencies?
https://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/...ver-operation/

Bottom line is an identified nut job went on a shooting / killing spree.
Not the guns fault but societies failure. In order words, protocols were not followed.

The fault lies with a society that allows easy access to firearms. The Nova Scotia shooter had to acquire his firearms and ammunition through illegal channels. The Indianapolis shooter acquired his legally despite a criminal history. Put him in Canada and he never would have been able to legally acquire a firearm or ammunition.

[fishfood]

Are you guys aware that Thunder Bay Ontario

Had a higher homicide rate than more than half of the states in the USA. Per [emoji817] thousand .

24 states has a lower homicide rate than Thunder Bay .

Toronto has a higher rate than maine


Guns or no guns we are not much better off.

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The fault lies with a society that allows easy access to firearms. The Nova Scotia shooter had to acquire his firearms and ammunition through illegal channels. The Indianapolis shooter acquired his legally despite a criminal history. Put him in Canada and he never would have been able to legally acquire a firearm or ammunition.

You are a gun control advocate and contradicting yourself.
What makes you think the Indy shooter would not have gone to the black market?
Legal or not the end result was the same in both countries.
Persons with mental health issues committed horrible crimes and were known to police.