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April 17th, 2021, 08:46 AM
#1
Police surprised by new powers they have to stop anyone they see for no reason????
So I hear on the news that all police services in Ontario were blind-sided by their new found ability to start carding everyone they see on the streets again. Many forces are on record already stating they will not take advantage of these new powers they have been gifted with, but time will tell.
I do not see this turn of events going very well for the very small minority of LEOs that might go overboard on a power trip, and no one can say with a straight face that those officers do not exist in our province unless they live under a rock with no internet or social interaction.
John
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April 17th, 2021 08:46 AM
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April 17th, 2021, 09:06 AM
#2
Be polite. Accept the ticket and be on your merry way. The new order violates our charter of rights and freedom. They know it and will not stand in court.
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April 17th, 2021, 09:12 AM
#3
Leaving in a few minutes to check road conditions to my camp.
"Only dead fish go with the flow."
Proud Member: CCFR, CSSA, OFAH, NFA.
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April 17th, 2021, 09:16 AM
#4
Has too much time on their hands
Have the right to remain silent, don't even have to speak to them. I'm an essential worker so should be interesting getting pulled and not saying a word...LMAO.
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April 17th, 2021, 09:19 AM
#5
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
impact
Be polite. Accept the ticket and be on your merry way. The new order violates our charter of rights and freedom. They know it and will not stand in court.
BINGO.
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April 17th, 2021, 09:23 AM
#6
I had a problem in my teenage years of being stopped by police and arbitrarily searched, I went to the ole man for advice. He said, " Tell them you are on and about your own legal business, give them your name and address when they ask then ask them why they stopped you. You are under no obligation to provide any other details."
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April 17th, 2021, 09:32 AM
#7

Originally Posted by
canadaman30
Have the right to remain silent, don't even have to speak to them. I'm an essential worker so should be interesting getting pulled and not saying a word...LMAO.
Is this statement not a big part of our charter of rights? YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT. Tell me I am wrong.
Some people in authority, especially LEOs will say if you have nothing to hide then it is alright to answer their questions.
The police have the legal right to lie to you in order to have you incriminate your self, even unknowingly.
If the police pull you over, it is rarely to give you a gift certificate to Timmies, or extra ammo for the camp if it is a calibre you need.
Do not think I am a criminal or have a hate-on for law enforcement as almost all except one interaction many years ago have been kinda positive, even when receiving fines that I deserved.
I am just a huge proponent of asserting my rights and freedoms as an individual, a citizen of a still strong and free country, and try my darndest to keep my private life as private as possible in this day and age.
John
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April 17th, 2021, 09:35 AM
#8

Originally Posted by
canadaman30
Have the right to remain silent, don't even have to speak to them.
If it's an affirmative action diversity cop...I'm screaming racial profiling..stopping old white folk for no reason
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April 17th, 2021, 09:53 AM
#9

Originally Posted by
johnjyb
Is this statement not a big part of our charter of rights? YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT. Tell me I am wrong.
Some people in authority, especially LEOs will say if you have nothing to hide then it is alright to answer their questions.
The police have the legal right to lie to you in order to have you incriminate your self, even unknowingly.
If the police pull you over, it is rarely to give you a gift certificate to Timmies, or extra ammo for the camp if it is a calibre you need.
Do not think I am a criminal or have a hate-on for law enforcement as almost all except one interaction many years ago have been kinda positive, even when receiving fines that I deserved.
I am just a huge proponent of asserting my rights and freedoms as an individual, a citizen of a still strong and free country, and try my darndest to keep my private life as private as possible in this day and age.
John
That statement is not part of our Charter. You've mistaken that for American "Miranda" rights,but,we get your point. All Canadians are required to do is give name,address and date of birth when requested. After that,keep quiet. Take your ticket and plan on attending court. That's where you argue your case,not with the cop at the side of the road.
If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....
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April 17th, 2021, 10:02 AM
#10
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
johnjyb
Is this statement not a big part of our charter of rights? YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT. Tell me I am wrong.
Some people in authority, especially LEOs will say if you have nothing to hide then it is alright to answer their questions.
The police have the legal right to lie to you in order to have you incriminate your self, even unknowingly.
If the police pull you over, it is rarely to give you a gift certificate to Timmies, or extra ammo for the camp if it is a calibre you need.
Do not think I am a criminal or have a hate-on for law enforcement as almost all except one interaction many years ago have been kinda positive, even when receiving fines that I deserved.
I am just a huge proponent of asserting my rights and freedoms as an individual, a citizen of a still strong and free country, and try my darndest to keep my private life as private as possible in this day and age.
John
They ask for license and insurance, I provide it. I also have a dash cam that turns 360 and records all interactions with police. When they are made aware they are being recorded, it evens out the playing field. It very surprising the change of attitude when they see the camera on them...lol.